Should new divers be exposed to controversial views?

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Should new divers be exposed to controversial views? Can each point of view be expressed without the cynicism and angst?

I believe so. There are important issues and valid point made that get buried deep is good threads, like the one below.

From this post: http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/4312255-post218.html
 
Should new divers be exposed to controversial views?

Who would be the judge to to expose or to hide the view?

Why must people be protected from themselves?

(I know you are not saying this...I'm just thinking out loud.)
 
Teamcasa:
Should new divers be exposed to controversial views?

Of course. We don't need to protect people from thoughts.

Teamcasa:
Can each point of view be expressed without the cynicism and angst?

Yes, but even if it isn't, express your thoughts anyway.
 
Should new divers be exposed to controversial views? Can each point of view be expressed without the cynicism and angst

"quick, turn off the computer...Grandpa just got his OW cert and being a new diver, we don't want him to see that his training might be inadequate in some other's views. Hell the old fart might have a heart attack".
 
Controversial views are the meat and potatoes of Internet discussion ... they provide a platform around which to express our ideas. But the flip side is that there's a lot of misinformation that gets tossed out there as though it were factual ... and that's the "cockroach in the pudding".

Fortunately, there's enough knowledgeable people on here that it usually gets sorted out. Unfortunately, all too often that involves pages and pages of "t!t-for-tat" back and forth on trivial issues that add no value to the discussion. That's when the discussion loses all value except as a spectator sport (for those who enjoy train wrecks).

In my opinion ... the value that a controversial issue will offer to the new diver is directly proportional to the ability of us "old divers" to discuss them in a rational manner. The purpose of this forum isn't to "score points" ... which too many people seem to want to engage in. Those discussions should take place elsewhere. The rules here should reflect the audience, and a real effort should be made to stay on topic. Otherwise, however controversial or not the topic may be, it won't be of any value to the person who's coming here for information and guidance.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
Should new divers be exposed to controversial views? Can each point of view be expressed without the cynicism and angst?

I believe so. There are important issues and valid point made that get buried deep is good threads, like the one below.

From this post: http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/4312255-post218.html

Sure. There's nothing wrong with unconventional views.

I hope, however, that people ask for facts to support those "controversial views".

More often than not things are not black and white and people are very poor, on the whole, at distinguishing fact from opinion.

Add to that the fact that the most cynical opinions are often delivered with the most force and you have a good recipe to confuse people.

R..
 
Add to that the fact that the most cynical opinions are often delivered with the most force and you have a good recipe to confuse people.
Are cynical opinions more probable to be wrong?

I doubt there is any correlation between the two.
 
Controversial views are the meat and potatoes of Internet discussion ... they provide a platform around which to express our ideas. But the flip side is that there's a lot of misinformation that gets tossed out there as though it were factual ... and that's the "cockroach in the pudding".

Fortunately, there's enough knowledgeable people on here that it usually gets sorted out. Unfortunately, all too often that involves pages and pages of "t!t-for-tat" back and forth on trivial issues that add no value to the discussion. That's when the discussion loses all value except as a spectator sport (for those who enjoy train wrecks).

In my opinion ... the value that a controversial issue will offer to the new diver is directly proportional to the ability of us "old divers" to discuss them in a rational manner. The purpose of this forum isn't to "score points" ... which too many people seem to want to engage in. Those discussions should take place elsewhere. The rules here should reflect the audience, and a real effort should be made to stay on topic. Otherwise, however controversial or not the topic may be, it won't be of any value to the person who's coming here for information and guidance.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

Exactly.

The hope is that the issue, be it controversial or not, gets fair treatment, and not at the expense of the member.
 

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