Scuba diver dies after being found floating at Kurnell, NSW, Australia

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Isn't it...

I disagree. I've been in some situations as a firefighter where I was extremely fortunate to survive. I've seen a lot of peers and friends die of cancer. I work in a care facility and see the day to day existance of dementia paitients. I'm in no rush to die, but I believe I'd rather go out doing something I love than end up like the latter. I know this may sound simplistic to many, but as no less an authority on life than Jimmy Buffet said, "I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead"

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

I disagree. I've been in some situations as a firefighter where I was extremely fortunate to survive. I've seen a lot of peers and friends die of cancer. I work in a care facility and see the day to day existance of dementia paitients. I'm in no rush to die, but I believe I'd rather go out doing something I love than end up like the latter. I know this may sound simplistic to many, but as no less an authority on life than Jimmy Buffet said, "I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead"

... watched my mom spend the last 30 months of her life laying in a bed, unable to do much of anything except breathe. I'll trade years off my life in exchange for not having to go out like that ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[gypsyjim]

While it is a terribly common cliche to say someone died doing what they love, as if they welcomed that end with open arms, gradually dying in a nursing home of dementia, cancer, etc would be no less horrific than an accidental death you see coming. IMO

At least you were still living til the end, rather than dying away an inch at a time.

 

[dmoore19]

Seeing the results of Alzheimer's on my mother I can say with certainty that I would rather pass sooner than later if faced with the death sentence that disease hands out.

 

[DevonDiver]

Sorry... I'm confused. On the A&I forum, we look for lessons learned. Are the preceding statements claiming that, somehow, this incident is justifiable because something worse may have happened further down life's line? I'm really confused as to the point of these posts in relation to Marica's tragic death.

 

[mdb]

There are now almost 60,000 views on this thread.

Marcia's death has obviously had a impact on our community.

Lessons to be learned, of course. Discussions about mortality also a sub text.

RIP Marcia you left a legacy on many levels.

 

[gypsyjim]

Sorry... I'm confused. On the A&I forum, we look for lessons learned. Are the preceding statements claiming that, somehow, this incident is justifiable because something worse may have happened further down life's line? I'm really confused as to the point of these posts in relation to Marica's tragic death.

Justifying her death?
To observe that someone chose to live their life to it's fullest, and pursue something they love, even though doing so holds inherent risk, (rather than sit safety at home, risking nothing) , they at least were not afraid to LIVE!?

There are lessons to learn, and warnings to share, enough here, but we can still respect the person's choice to be truly alive, while still learning from her errors.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

Sorry... I'm confused. On the A&I forum, we look for lessons learned. Are the preceding statements claiming that, somehow, this incident is justifiable because something worse may have happened further down life's line? I'm really confused as to the point of these posts in relation to Marica's tragic death.

Justifiable? Oh hell no ... there is no way to justify her death. But at least Marcia took everything she could out of her time on this planet. She didn't shy away from doing things because she was afraid to die. If anything, it's a justification on how she chose to live ... which is what I always admired in her.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Slamfire]

Sorry... I'm confused. On the A&I forum, we look for lessons learned. Are the preceding statements claiming that, somehow, this incident is justifiable because something worse may have happened further down life's line? I'm really confused as to the point of these posts in relation to Marica's tragic death.

The lesson is that you don't have to give in to panic if you can avoid it. But you dismiss it as something impossible. You think I'm naive, sheltered and inexperienced for thinking so. The preceding comments relate to comparatively looking at other less panic prone ways of dying and concluding that they are not necessarily better. So if you have the misfortune to consciously encounter a situation were you might be drowning, you have one more argument against succumbing to panic. I'm not saying it is easy. I'm not saying anybody can do it. I'm not even saying I can do it. I hope I can but, honestly, I am not sure. To you it seems that it is impossible for anybody.

You argue for hypothetical vs practical scenarios saying that military in training and buddied free divers don't panic because they know they have this safety net that will prevent them from dying. So then I'm supposed to believe that solo free divers that down, all drown in panic? Not logical. And military personnel once they get real life harassment outside their training safety net, they all panic sometime before dying?

 

[tracydr]

I found some comfort in re-reading the book Fatally Flawed by Verna Van Schaik. It somehow gave me comfort during the past week while thinking about Marcia's accident. Verna has some very intense writing about her own thoughts on death and dying. Highly recommend this to anyone trying to find some sense from this accident.
I realize this isn't on-topic but I thought it might provide some comfort to somebody feeling pain. You can also chat with Verna via Facebook if you would like. She's a remarkable woman and teaches a motivational method called DARE.