Jorgy
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I believe that the 250 would have the upside in a true cold water (under 40 degrees) application.......
Since you are going the MK17 route......
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Since you are going the MK17 route......
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Regulators for Tech Diving
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PfcAJ
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G250v. The metal air barrel is real nice, and I've seen a few of the plastic air barrels crack.
ding dang
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if you have your own tanks, go DIN. if you don't have your own tanks, go DIN, and get the adapter for when you rent tanks.
If you're going to spend money on regs, you might as well shell out for your own tanks. So go DIN.
I would go for any reg you see that is environmentally sealed, so you can use it in cold, and it'll perform fine in warmer waters too. Nothing to worry about.
If money is no option, go Apeks. If money is an option, get the cheapest reg you can, being environmentally sealed. Prepare to spend over $600US for a set, that's fine.
If you're going to spend money on regs, you might as well shell out for your own tanks. So go DIN.
I would go for any reg you see that is environmentally sealed, so you can use it in cold, and it'll perform fine in warmer waters too. Nothing to worry about.
If money is no option, go Apeks. If money is an option, get the cheapest reg you can, being environmentally sealed. Prepare to spend over $600US for a set, that's fine.
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I dove Scubapros for years and loved them, but recently changed to Apeks DS4s and XTX50s. Yesterday, I spent 45 minutes in 38F water and TRIED to get them to freeze by continuous purging... no effect. I was only in 100 feet, but I figure that was as good a test as i could give them.
I also like the smaller second stage. It allows my beautiful face to be seen better...
Jorgy
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DIN is nice......my local reg & tanks are DIN......
But unless you have DIN tanks then an adapter is a PITA.......
Sticks out farther from the tank valve and has more failure points.....
So why do it? If you are going tech don't plan on saving money....
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But unless you have DIN tanks then an adapter is a PITA.......
Sticks out farther from the tank valve and has more failure points.....
So why do it? If you are going tech don't plan on saving money....
M
memorex77
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When talking tech here, would I be able to use the same regs (I'm using Apeks) for Trimix?
PfcAJ
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Yes, they will work just fine.
The advice given is really good. I would also like to add that I too have never heard of regs leaking after being serviced.
I am aware of some older regulators having a slight leak at the 1st stage as part of the design to release over pressure but generally if they are new then the leak is usually the fault of the technician.
As for the part of tech diving, it's imperative that you be serious about it as it is a difficult and costly path to take, doubles band, manifolds, lift bags, reels, 3 - 6 sets of regulators etc, etc, not to mention the cost of training and effort necessary. Then there the really expensive stuff VR3s or Predators, scooters, lights, helium then there's CCRs!!!!!
Anyway, if you are set on getting a "tech" reg, these are my views:
Scubapro mk25/700A/s600. Unsealed piston design, powerful regs that keep pouring huge volumes of air at almost any depths. Difficult to make on the spot fixes without special tools.
Scubapro Mk17/700a/s600. Sealed, fairly light and fairly new design. Seems to be on par with the apeks but again, difficult to make on the spot fixes without special tools.
Apeks XTX/ATX 100 or DS4 XTS/50, tried, true and proven design in really awful conditions from cold to murky, silt laden waters with easy access to the workings of the 2nd stage should any sand particles find they way into the 2nd stage, while the 1st stage is sealed.
Doesn't quite have the power of the scubapro mk25 but more than sufficient even at extreme depths.
I have 4 apeks and thinking of getting more : )
SangP
I am aware of some older regulators having a slight leak at the 1st stage as part of the design to release over pressure but generally if they are new then the leak is usually the fault of the technician.
As for the part of tech diving, it's imperative that you be serious about it as it is a difficult and costly path to take, doubles band, manifolds, lift bags, reels, 3 - 6 sets of regulators etc, etc, not to mention the cost of training and effort necessary. Then there the really expensive stuff VR3s or Predators, scooters, lights, helium then there's CCRs!!!!!
Anyway, if you are set on getting a "tech" reg, these are my views:
Scubapro mk25/700A/s600. Unsealed piston design, powerful regs that keep pouring huge volumes of air at almost any depths. Difficult to make on the spot fixes without special tools.
Scubapro Mk17/700a/s600. Sealed, fairly light and fairly new design. Seems to be on par with the apeks but again, difficult to make on the spot fixes without special tools.
Apeks XTX/ATX 100 or DS4 XTS/50, tried, true and proven design in really awful conditions from cold to murky, silt laden waters with easy access to the workings of the 2nd stage should any sand particles find they way into the 2nd stage, while the 1st stage is sealed.
Doesn't quite have the power of the scubapro mk25 but more than sufficient even at extreme depths.
I have 4 apeks and thinking of getting more : )
SangP
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OHIO DIVERS
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How about poseidon's x-stream for tech diving?
Jorgy
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Absolutely......
Just my opinion the best cold water there is.......it is what i dive......
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Just my opinion the best cold water there is.......it is what i dive......
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