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Blue, was I wearing my TLS350 when we dove together? I can't remember. I love mine but I am ready to get a full cordura CLX450 as soon as someone either gives me the right deal or I get connections to get one.

In the last year or so, I have done only one wet suit dive, and that will probably be my last. My 350 is really comfortable in the water.

Here's some things about DUI: They are overpriced, however, they are as good as all of the good things you have heard about them. You get service by paying all that exta money, and they want to keep that as a known factor in the industry so that people keep paying that extra money without hesitation.

I would not get hung up about the flexibility issue. If your trilam suit is properly made, you will have full ranges of motion. You don't need the flexibility of neoprene because trilam that is properly cut doesn't need to stretch; the cut takes care of your movement.

The telescoping torso, in particular, is what allows the full range of movement while also allowing a good cut. It adds no extra drag at all. Surprisingly, I find that it doesn't even do so when backwards kicking. There is no air trapping issues with it at all.

Go with a suit that has a self donning feature. This is one of the reasons I stick with DUI. Yes, it is great to have dive buddies but don't get any equipment that assures that you will need one to put it on. Order your 450 with the "old style" zipper that closes from top to bottom rather than the new one that closes from bottom to top. DUI will do that for you if you request it.

Unless you are doing extensive beach diving and such, I would skip the rock boots and go with turbo soles. Rock boots are a mess for fitting into most fins unless you use the largest Turtles or Jet Fins (there may be others but they don't count anyway :eyebrow: ). I can use my same fins with either wet suit booties or my TLS350 turbo soles.

Cordura is pretty darn durable. Neoprene certainly cuts much easier on the sharp edges of wrecks. Though it is not very positive, you will have to wear extra weight by using crushed neoprene. I would not go with any neoprene options under any circumstances. Even my 350 has not had any punctures in it . . . yet. I am sure it will happen some day since all I pretty much do is wreck dive. When that happens, that is what repairs are for. Hopefully, I will long since already have my 450, which will be very much more resistant to cuts and punctures.

Go with the bellowed pockets on both sides. Zippers are just another thing to break or get jammed. You can easily replace the velcro IF you ever need to do it at all (I know of no one with this problem). When you get the suit, cut off the metal rings inside the pockets and replace with bungee cord. You do not want any metal to metal connections.

Do you really need the butt pad? I just carry a boat cushion with my dive gear and sit on that. Since I dive double 120s, my "tush cush" elevates me to just the right height so that I can sit with my rig on without it trying to pitch me forward.

You can go with the kevlar knee pads. If you dive in places like California or those boats in Palm Beach (which we won't mention) that require you to crawl onto them, you will have the protection you need.

I would go with the zip seals and stay away from the rings. The whole purpose of the custom suit is to have a good fit. Why go and bulk it up by adding the rings. With zip seals, the rings can pretty much be a thing of the past.

Hope this helps.
 
Koi.... you can not walk into the DC shop. They are strictly only open to resellers.

ScubaDadMiami,

Thanks for your input. I do intend to do quite a bit of beach diving with the new suit..... and I am still leaning toward the rock boots. There are other brand of boots available, and my LDS owner did show me a nice boot as an alternative to the rock boot. I also have a rock boot DUI that I can use with the DC suit should I decide to go with them. And I already dive the turtle fins (XL jet fins basically) a GREAT fin.

I am going to have to have my LDS's request that XL suits be sent to them from both DUI and DC, as none of my LDS's actually carry the suits in stock (not the ones that I am interested in anyway). This is kind of a pain. It would be so much easier to just go into DC for instance (only 40 minutes away), and try on their suits and make choices, etc.. I am not sure I will be an XL and will have my suits custom fit, but I am sure that the larges do not fit as I have tried them. As I mentioned DC does not allow end user walk ins.

I have one LDS requesting the DC suits for me to try, and am looking for a DS here near me to have the DUI suits sent in to them to try them as well.

If anyone has either the DUI CLX450 or the DC UltraFlex Pro/Duraflex tech, and DISLIKES (ok.... even HATES), either.... please post your thoughts.

Anyway..... I very much appreciate the input, it is helpful.
 
Snowbear.... I believe the other thread was merged with this one. Did not see your post regarding your negatives on the DUI or DC suits per above. I may have missed it.

But I would like to hear from others regarding their dislikes of the above. Specifically those who actually dive the suits.
 
Found it Snowbear. Thanks.

RE: DC drysuits.
I agree... you can get the boots replaced and move on with that suit (yea right...lol). I am not sure.... but I have a feeling that the LDS owner being a friend of DC's owner, does not hurt anything either. I was pretty blown away that I could actually work on the suit along the way of having it made. What more could you ask for!? Well.... I guess a suit that don't leak eh!?? ;)

I am going to check out the neck seals (see how cheap they are). Maybe they have an upgrade seal of some sort. And the "blue" ring gloves seemed to be the ticket. They were super soft lined inside too. I too mentioned the need to keep the wrist seals in place with the ring system. Aparently that can also be done. I like the idea, as I may not always want to dive with dry gloves.
 
BlueDolphin:
Found it Snowbear. Thanks.

RE: DC drysuits.
I agree... you can get the boots replaced and move on with that suit (yea right...lol).
Well, I found out what was up with the boots... I took the suit to a repair place outside Seattle while I was down there. He said those boots they were using for ~ 1 1/2 years were notorious for the neoprene breaking down and "seeping." That's why my feet were always wet, yet I couldn't find any actual holes after I aquasealed the soles. I bit the bullet and left the suit there to get new boots, a new neck seal and have the exhaust valve moved. Fortunately, I don't have to stay out of the water for the next 3 1/2 weeks until it's done, since I can use my rubber Hunter suit issued by my place of employment. It doesn't fit that great and requires more weight to stay submerged, but at least I still get to dive!
 
scubadad, whats making you want to go from the 350 to the 450? i'm getting ready to place my order, so i'm curious...thanks
 
joedelt:
scubadad, whats making you want to go from the 350 to the 450? i'm getting ready to place my order, so i'm curious...thanks

I do a lot of wreck diving. The CLX450 with the all cordura option is pretty resistant to tears compared to the TLS350 fabric.

I have been pretty lucky with my 350. However, the last time that I exited a wreck, I came out with a fish hook stuck to my pocket. And who hasn't been tossed about a bit next to sharp edges sometimes? It got me thinking . . . .

I was about to start thinking about getting a new suit anyway. It would be nice to get one that will withstand the rigors of hard use.
 

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