Quick Answers!!! I'm *^$~@%: Stuck

[Morg_NZ]

Here we go.......................

Can anyone give me an idea of the weight required to be fitted to the weight belt for this set up?? It'll be for salt water

DUI CF200X drysuit.
200g under suit.
Halcyon eclipse 40lbs
12ltr Steel

???? I know it's a weird question but any idea would be great!!! I've been hedging at 7-8kg but others have said more:11:

I'll normaly use twin 10s but this isn't an option as their getting hydro tested this week and I'm back to a single tank!!! it's been about 2 years since I last used a single tank and then it was in a 7mm wetsuit.

Anyone care to help??

 

[jonnythan]

Personally, in a similar setup, I have to add maybe 6-7 lb (3 kg), but I know buddies in similar setups that wear anywhere from 0 to 8 kg. Everyone is different when it comes to weighting

The "real" answer is to get into shallow water with a near empty tank (30 bar) and find out exactly how much lead it takes so that you sink when you fully exhale. That's how much weight you need on the belt.

An instructor who has seen a lot of these might be able to make a guess, but I think 8 kg is on the high side.. remember, your backplate is already 2-3 kg.

 

[Morg_NZ]

Personally, in a similar setup, I have to add maybe 6-7 lb (3 kg), but I know buddies in similar setups that wear anywhere from 0 to 8 kg. Everyone is different when it comes to weighting

The "real" answer is to get into shallow water with a near empty tank (30 bar) and find out exactly how much lead it takes so that you sink when you fully exhale. That's how much weight you need on the belt.

An instructor who has seen a lot of these might be able to make a guess, but I think 8 kg is on the high side.. remember, your backplate is already 2-3 kg.

Cheers for the reply.................but..............I'm not going to get that chance before Thursday!!!!!!

 

[Diver0001]

Here we go.......................

Can anyone give me an idea of the weight required to be fitted to the weight belt for this set up?? It'll be for salt water

DUI CF200X drysuit.
200g under suit.
Halcyon eclipse 40lbs
12ltr Steel

???? I know it's a weird question but any idea would be great!!! I've been hedging at 7-8kg but others have said more:11:

I'll normaly use twin 10s but this isn't an option as their getting hydro tested this week and I'm back to a single tank!!! it's been about 2 years since I last used a single tank and then it was in a 7mm wetsuit.

Anyone care to help??

Start with 10kg (including bp) and dial in from there.

R..

 

[Morg_NZ]

Start with 10kg (including bp) and dial in from there.

R..

I've really only got one crack at it!!! ..............planned dive is Thursday and I've got no chance of getting wet before then.
I've only one hang up.............10kg seems a huge ammount{normaly I am nuetral with double 10s}, I don't mind being slightly neg 1-2 Kg but not by several kilos3/4 +
I'm just trying to "guestimate" the ammount 4-6, 6-8 or 8-10 Kg !!!!! I know it's a rather hit and miss approach but I'd hope someone here might have a slightly similar set up and be able to point me in the right way.

 

[Diver0001]

I've really only got one crack at to!!!
I've only one hang up.............10kg seems a huge ammount{normaly I am nuetral with double 10s}
I'm just trying to "guestimate" the ammount 4-6, 6-8 or 8-10 Kg !!!!! I know it's a rather hit and miss approach but I'd hope someone here might have a slightly similar set up and be able to point me in the right way.

You can't compare them. A twin 10 is 8-10 kg negative when it's full and at least 4-5kg negative empty without the bp. Add the bp and you're up to 8 already.

I dive with a lot of different divers with a lot of different types of drysuits and 10kg is right in the middle of the curve. Believe me.

Think of it this way. If you're not able to make a bouyancy check before the dive then what choices do you have? A little light and you either won't be diving or you won't be able to hold your shallow stops. A little heavy and you're going to a couple of extra litres of air in your wing.....

R..

 

[Morg_NZ]

You can't compare them. A twin 10 is 8-10 kg negative when it's full and at least 4-5kg negative empty without the bp. Add the bp and you're up to 8 already.

I dive with a lot of different divers with a lot of different types of drysuits and 10kg is right in the middle of the curve. Believe me.

Think of it this way. If you're not able to make a bouyancy check before the dive then what choices do you have? A little light and you either won't be diving or you won't be able to hold your shallow stops. A little heavy and you're going to a couple of extra litres of air in your wing.....

R..

A HAH................so in your view is my questimate of 8 kg a little to light??

 

[Diver0001]

A HAH................so in your view is my questimate of 8 kg a little to light??

Well, all I can say for sure is that I normally see people using a bit more than that with a 12 litre tank. 8kg isn't totally unrealistic, especially if you are willing to dive with the suit empty, but it's on the light side of what I normally see.

Another consideration might be the cold. That extra litre or so of air in the suit can make a difference of 15 or 20 min in your bottom time. I still had 2C on the bottom on Saturday. It can't be that much warmer in the UK, I figure.

R..

 

[Morg_NZ]

Well, all I can say for sure is that I normally see people using a bit more than that with a 12 litre tank. 8kg isn't totally unrealistic, especially if you are willing to dive with the suit empty, but it's on the light side of what I normally see.

Another consideration might be the cold. That extra litre or so of air in the suit can make a difference of 15 or 20 min in your bottom time. I still had 2C on the bottom on Saturday. It can't be that much warmer in the UK, I figure.

R..

Yeh but it's a 12ltr "dumpy" tank, from what I've heard their rather heavy even when empty!!! any idea of this?

 

[Morg_NZ]

Hey...............I've just had a thought.

Can anyone find out the bouyancy details of these tanks??? I've just prent the last hour looking and haven't been able to find a thing.

And if you have any ideas of what weight I'll need then I'll also be REALLY happy to hear you views and set-up ideas as well