Question about bottom routing...

[Father]

So I got my HOG D3 (yoke) and my second stage is routed from the bottom port.

I took it out and set everything up and the wing from my BC keeps the hose from actually feeding straight down, so I had to cant the reg off to the side.

Is this right? Seems like if you have to cant the first stage off to the side how is it really that much different than just routing the hose off the side port? What's the advantage?

Or am I completely screwed up? Be gentle.

 

[Teller]

I turn my mk25 slightly so the seven foot hose routes straight down.

 

[PfcAJ]

Single tank or double tank?

You mention a yoke valve, which suggests single tank to me. With a turret style 1st like that, I route my LP hoses radially from the turret. I don't even use the bottom port. I find that routing the long hose off the bottom (and forcing the 1st to be at kind of an angle) makes the backup reg hose stick up/out more. I don't like it. I also like my log hose in front of the wing, and having it off the bottom port makes that impossible.

Minor stuff, probably doesn't really matter a whole lot.

 

[TSandM]

If this is a single tank setup, I'm with AJ. When I tried using the bottom port, it caused the wing inflator hose to bend at an acute angle that started to kink the hose.

For doubles, it is typical to cant the first stage so that the bottom port is aimed diagonally across and down. (Although I aim my right post slightly to the outside, instead, because otherwise my head bangs on the first stages when I'm using AL80s, and I can't see in front of me.)

 

[Dr. Lecter]

For single tank long hose, I put the 7' hose on the bottom port and cant the first stage slightly to my right. This way the hose routes neatly down the side of the tank, behind the wing, and is pointing in the direction of a diver behind me exiting a restriction single-file, giving maximum hose length when most needed. As a side benefit, it lets me run the 22" backup hose off the right side of the turret, giving me a bit more flexibility in turning my head while using the necklaced backup.

For doubles, though, the right post reg has the 7' hose on the side of the turret while the super short LPI hose comes off the bottom port, which is pointed at my left shoulder. This still routes the hose down/back, while giving the benefit of rotation of the turret and keeping the hose projections away from the outside of the rig.

 

[PfcAJ]

out of gas diver needs to be in front. he wont swim away from his gas source. however, if the oog diver is in the rear, the gas source can swim away from him.

 

[Dr. Lecter]

Heh, I suppose this is one of the reasons I am primarily a solo diver and only have the long hose configuration as a means of dealing with an emergency where I'm stuck either helping someone I didn't plan to or getting mugged for my reg.

My opinion is that I am absolutely not giving up control over navigation of our exit from a wreck to an OOG diver just so that (s)he doesn't have to worry about the relatively tiny risk that I wouldn’t be cognizant of the fact someone is depending on my going slowly enough for them to stay attached to my reg. If that makes me not a team player, that's OK by me.

But if someone is planning on having the OOG diver in front as you describe, I'll agree that putting the 7' hose on the bottom port in a single tank configuration isn't a great idea. Neither is putting it on a side port on the turret, but there's not much else to do.

 

[Michael Guerrero]

I find the diversity of viewpoints on SB enriching.

 

[Father]

Single tank or double tank?

You mention a yoke valve, which suggests single tank to me. With a turret style 1st like that, I route my LP hoses radially from the turret. I don't even use the bottom port. I find that routing the long hose off the bottom (and forcing the 1st to be at kind of an angle) makes the backup reg hose stick up/out more. I don't like it.

Single tank.
I think I'm going to end up switching it from the bottom to one of the side-ports. I'm going for a dive tomorrow... I'll give it one more shot after taking suggestions into account but I have a feeling it's just going to aggravate me the whole time.

I'm using a 5' hose off my primary and I have an Edge Egress Octo inflator in lieu of a dedicated octo.

out of gas diver needs to be in front. he wont swim away from his gas source. however, if the oog diver is in the rear, the gas source can swim away from him.

Pretty sure I remember the OOG diver is supposed to swim next to you, not in front of behind. No?

 

[Jim Lapenta]

Out of a cave or wreck they may not be able to swim next to you. The 5ft may work better out of a side port. It may not. I see where you may be having an issue if you are using the integrated inflator set up. Canting the D3 to the side may necessitate a longer hose on the inflator to account for the bend.
Just out of curiosity, what BC are you using and how did you decide on this set up?