Question about a crotch strap

[Spectre]

What is the difference between the harness and the crotch strap webbing? How much stiffer is the harness webbing?

I was placing a fifthD order anyway, so I threw in the harness webbing. I couldn't bring myself to shell out the cash for the crotch strap, since I didn't need the hardware.

The reason I ask is the reason I'm changing my harness. The webbing on my current harness is just too stiff. Anyplace I left a D-ring for more than a couple minutes has a bend in the webbing. All the different adjustments I made to my buckle to get it right has caused the waist strap to have so many creases that it's a pain getting it through the buckle. I've been fearful of adjusting my crotch strap at all since the stiffness of the webbing caused me to spend a couple hours with pliers getting it originally setup.

So... I'm assuming that this webbing is going to be softer... is that a safe assumption?

 

[Uncle Pug]

Spectre once bubbled...
Anyplace I left a D-ring for more than a couple minutes has a bend in the webbing

Jeff when you wet the webbing the lumps should flatten out.
I personally like the stiffer webbing as it is easier to chicken wing out of the shoulder straps that way... but to each his own.

 

[SeaJay]

Doppler once bubbled...

Halcyon uses 2-inch seat belt webbing for its crotch straps... available in the cave diving section of your local auto accessory store at a few cents per foot!

And it is not sewn but simply 'held together' using weight belt keeper/clip...

DD=-)

Hm.

The seat belts on my cars don't look like this. And the Halcyon crotch strap is sewn.

Someone mentioned that Halcyon is using polypro webbing... That may be true, but isn't the rest of the rig also made of polypro webbing? How can you specify the difference?

IMHO, $35 solves the problem. I've spent more than that on dinner. Sure, it's expensive... Who cares? We're not talking hundreds here... It's overpriced by what... $15? There are better places to save money...

Whatever, man... Dive as you see fit. I found that for $35, I got a much more comfortable rig... And apparently others feel this way too.

 

[SeaJay]

Spectre once bubbled...
What is the difference between the harness and the crotch strap webbing? How much stiffer is the harness webbing?

There is a huge difference. One's stiff and perfect for the rest of the harness. Even stiffer than the webbing that you find on your weight belt...

The other's more like woven fabric... And it will contour around those "sensitive areas."

The reason I ask is the reason I'm changing my harness. The webbing on my current harness is just too stiff. Anyplace I left a D-ring for more than a couple minutes has a bend in the webbing. All the different adjustments I made to my buckle to get it right has caused the waist strap to have so many creases that it's a pain getting it through the buckle. I've been fearful of adjusting my crotch strap at all since the stiffness of the webbing caused me to spend a couple hours with pliers getting it originally setup.

So... I'm assuming that this webbing is going to be softer... is that a safe assumption?

I'm with UP on this one... I much prefer the stiff webbing on the rest of the harness, and found that it does soften a bit with some wear. I like it for the same reason that he does.

Doesn't belong between my legs, though. For that, I want nice-n-soft!

I couldn't tell you if FifthD's "off the shelf" 2" webbing is the stiff or medium variety. I do know that it's not the super-soft crotchstrap material, though... That, I understand, is exclusive to the $35 Halcyon crotchstrap...

 

[Spectre]

Uncle Pug once bubbled...

Jeff when you wet the webbing the lumps should flatten out.

Any water, or salt water more than fresh? I put 8 dives in since the last time I futzed with my harness, and those lumps are still there.

 

[Uncle Pug]

Spectre once bubbled...
any water, or salt water more than fresh?

....probably only works with PNW saltwater.

Shoot Jeff... come on out here and I will fix it for you with a dive or two....

Alternately you could soak it in fresh water, lay it on the sidewalk and give it good working over with a hammer.

 

[Spectre]

Uncle Pug once bubbled...
Shoot Jeff... come on out here and I will fix it for you with a dive or two....

Now that's an offer! I'll get out there sometime... unfortunately I think my scuba travelling is going to be pretty limited to June only this year

Alternately you could soak it in fresh water, lay it on the sidewalk and give it good working over with a hammer. [/B]

I was thinking about soaking and then using an iron... if I can find one that isn't covered in wax

Well, I'll see how the new webbing compares to the old stuff. Since I'll be getting a warm-water BP sometime; I'll need another harness... so no loss... I just put it off longer [I love putting stuff off!].

Thanks.

 

[FredT]

SeaJay once bubbled...


Someone mentioned that Halcyon is using polypro webbing... That may be true, but isn't the rest of the rig also made of polypro webbing? How can you specify the difference?

Saturated Polypro floats in fresh water, Nylon doesn't.

FT

 

[dmdalton]

Spectre once bubbled...




I was thinking about soaking and then using an iron... if I can find one that isn't covered in wax

Make it a cool iron or you will melt it!

Dave D

 

[SeaJay]

FredT once bubbled...


Saturated Polypro floats in fresh water, Nylon doesn't.

FT

Wow! Great tip, Fred! I'm gonna go check that out...