Purchasing Property on the Sister Islands

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If anyone is buying on little cayman and will be down there april 7-14th 2018, let me know and I'll buy you a drink down there and discuss the buying process - I hope to someday get property on an island or at least near a reef.
 
I haven't been on Little Cayman since 2014, at that time, nearly the entire undeveloped island was posted for sale. I was just on Cayman Brac this year. Not only was nearly the entire undeveloped island for sale, but so were many of the existing homes and businesses. On Cayman Brac, the old Divi Tiara site is totally derelict and the large Alexander Hotel has been closed since 2014 and is entirely overgrown. While riding a bike around, I discovered several, formerly very nice houses, that have likely been abandoned since Hurricane Paloma. One, on the West End point, is in one of the nicest locations with one of the nicest views that I have ever seen. I love visiting and diving on both of these wonderful islands but would not be likely to consider investment on either. I can't imagine how it would be to try to build and maintain a residence on either of them. Perhaps if price was no object....but then again, price would be no object, anywhere.
 
Good point. I found it interesting to see so many real estate signs lining the right of way in Little Cayman this Fall.

I would consider buying there, but how easy is it to obtain legal permanent Residence or to sell if it’s time to move back home? What could it cost in taxes and utilities? All things to consider.

I enjoyed shore diving on Little, plus it’s so close to FL. It’s really a special place.

Ricardo
 
We bought and sold on Roatan as we realised we wanted to travel to different places and with cost, we could travel far and away:)

Don't get lured into the vacation ownership hype before doing extreme due diligence in far away places.
 
Good point. I found it interesting to see so many real estate signs lining the right of way in Little Cayman this Fall.

I would consider buying there, but how easy is it to obtain legal permanent Residence or to sell if it’s time to move back home? What could it cost in taxes and utilities? All things to consider.

I enjoyed shore diving on Little, plus it’s so close to FL. It’s really a special place. Ricardo

I know that @EastEndDiver owns property on Grand Cayman so he might be able to answer some of these questions.
 
Buying property in the Cayman Islands is easy. You will need a local lawyer and will have to pay stamp tax. Utilities and insurance are relatively expensive. Permanent residence permit is difficult and expensive, but not necessary for residential real estate ownership.

Selling is also technically easy but as far as the Sister Islands are concerned, if you did want/need to sell, the property might stay on the market for a long time.
Further, rental potential would be significantly lower on the Sister Islands if that is part of your plan for financing. If you are thinking of a property for retirement, there is no real medical facility on LC apart from a nursing station and the Brac has a very modest hospital only.

I personally, agree with flyboy and would not buy on LC or CB for those reasons. Buying real estate on these islands would be a romantic investment and IMO, not necessarily a wise fiscal one. I love diving these two islands but IMO, much easier and safer to rent then buy. GC makes a little more sense even though the diving, arguably, is not as good.
 
We purchased on GC a couple of years ago. As Doctorfish mentioned, it is very straightforward - essentially the same process as purchasing in the States, except that titles are registered by the government so you do not need title insurance. We purchased a condo rather than a stand alone residence primarily because the financials worked out much better, and secondarily because we wanted someone watching the property while we were away (we spend only 3-4 months there each year). Our condo has a great management team that also serves as a rental agency, and we put our unit up for rental when we are not there. The management team is available to the guests, just like a hotel, and provides daily cleaning service and maintenance, so when we return the place looks better than when we left.

Before purchasing I did extensive financial analysis of about 15 properties to see what our net costs would be to own, plus factoring the relative desirability of each property. The costs of insurance, maintenance, utilities, etc are typically lower for a condo than a stand-alone property, as you are spreading the costs over a wider number of properties. But each property varies in the total monthly costs, and the costs per square foot (which was a key metric for us). In addition to the monthly out of pocket costs are the commission or other fees that go to the management group who handle rentals, plus the opportunity cost of tying up finds in the property instead of investing them in something else.

On the revenue side are the rental fees you will collect and the estimated number of days you will be able to rent the property. Additional there is the potential appreciation - although we decided not to include this in our analysis as you can't count on it (although we've seen some nice appreciation over the past couple of years).

We originally came looking for the least expensive place we could find north of SMB. The most interesting thing that came out of my analysis, however, was that the more you pay, the more the place will pay for itself. Your out of pocket costs go up with a larger, more expensive property, of course. But rental revenue goes up faster that costs (at least for the 15 properties I looked at). It is more difficult to rent a less desirable property and the daily rent is lower, so in net the he least expensive place we looked at would never have covered our out of pocket costs. On the other hand, the place we ended up purchasing cost about 4 times as much, but even though we use it during the entire high season, the rent from the off season has covered 100% of our out of pocket costs (condo fee, insurance, utilities, cleaning, maintenance, etc.), so far. And as long as the property appreciates as much as it has, we essentially have had a free place.

The final test was the worst-case scenario assuming we had zero rent and zero appreciation (which has pretty much a zero probability of happening). In that case the net cost to us for the property we bought would be exactly the same cost as if we had come down as renters and just rented the place at the going rate. Now, we would not have rented as nice a place, but at least we would be getting our money's worth.

Finally, other than the stamp tax the buyer pays on the property (less the value of any "chattel" - furniture and fixtures) there is no income or capital gains tax. If you buy property worth more than $500,000 (I believe) than getting residency is pretty straightforward but expensive. We got Cayman drivers licences, and that seems to get us most of the benefits of residency (various discounts here and there).

We did debate the issue of being "stuck" in one place vs traveling around to other places, but the benefit of having all our clothes, diving equipment, etc. stored at our place and being able to jump on a plane with just a backpack was more than worth it. Plus we have gotten to know lot of people to hang or dive with. I'm a musician and have met a bunch of other musicians and have been able to sit in with a few bands down there. We don't have to spend time learning the ins an outs of the place. It really is a peaceful and stress free vacation for us (well, except for all the crazy hoops we go through to import our dog each year - but I even know the folks at the Cayman Ag Dept now so that's another benefit of returning to the same place each year).

Anyway - good luck to anyone who decides to buy in the Cayman's!
 
@mi000ke thanks for the info! How bad are the insurance costs? I would think that hurricane insurance would be pricey.
 
What about one off capital improvement fees? Have they assessed any since ownership above and beyond the monthly fees? Do you report the rental income as income?
 

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