Not saying i would get lost, what i mean is looking at the map, and not knowing if there are lines up one tunnel or the other, crossing over to the other tunnel and all that kind of stuff - on paper it looks confusing I dove the siphon of Manatee, really enjoyed that dive and on 1/6, even at that depth we still got a good ways in past the 100ft deep sump like part and up to about 80ft or so on the side that would jet out into the manatee spring bowl, but that was a training dive, so i had stuff to do on the way out (back upstream). It was dark walled, but fun at the same time, would have no personal problem doing the same kind of thing at P3 as a siphon. As for somber, well yes we should be, splitting this off for a discussion only on P3 - might do so depending on if this gets back on track or not, no harm at the moment, but worth remembering if it keeps on about actually diving that state park and not diving management and the fatality itself.MikeFerrara:Gas management is a concern because it is a siphon but navigation is done the same way. Follow the rules and use the skills that you should have before going and you "shouldn't" get lost...right? Some people don't like it because the vis isn't usually as good as the rest. It's still great vis compared to what I'm used to and I like it. There's usually more particulate in the water and it changes your depth perception of makes it a little...I don't know...erie, spooky or something? I'm getting all excited just thinking about it. oops sorry, I guess it should be a somber thread. Maybe we should start another one to talk about cool places in the Peacock system.