Many, way too many have been sued for talking about a call they were on. If you reveal info about someone you treated at any level you can be held liable. Look a little deeper and this will scare you.
Paramedics called at Casino Point - 1/19/08
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JodiBB
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Yes...you are right, but it's not due to HIPAA, but due to patient privilege and confidentiality, which is different from HIPAA. However, the members of this board weren't hired to save this diver...the paramedics were....two different issues.
But I digress.....
DiverBizz....you're welcome....HIPAA is such a large animal...lots to learn
It was one of our guys (a DM candidate) who jumped into the water, towed her in (the guy from her group who'd initally been towing her was exhausted) and performed in-water rescue breathing on her... The instructor and the other DM in our group pulled her up on the stairs and continued with the rescue breathing, of course 50 million people crowded around to watch..
Her skin was pale, her pulse was extremely faint, she had "froth" coming out of her mouth... the guys worked on her until the paramedics arrived (which was an awesome response time-- it was about 3 minutes from the 911 call to the time they pulled up)..
The kelp growth out there is just bizarre right now-- its everywhere, and I was pulling it off of our students (and myself) constantly, so its definitely an entanglement hazard right now..
They put her in the chamber and the last update I heard was that she was responsive and talking. Not sure if there is permanant damage, I guess only time will tell.
Then this morning (sunday), I was in the water waiting for our OW students to leap off of the ledge (where the big rocks used to be at the bottom of the stairs)... when 2 older guys who'd gotten in right after me started talking a few feet from me... One of them said something didn't feel right (he said this 3 or 4 times), said he felt constricted and something was wrong... I guess his buddy said it would be ok once they descended.... Not 5 min later, the guy (who was not feeling right) pops up to the surface alone in a panic~ grabbing at the neck of his wetsuit and it looked like he was struggling.. He was asked if he was ok, but I don't believe he responded coherently~ couple people from the shore got in and pulled him onto the nearest rocks.. I don't think his buddy surfaced until after the fact (but i'm not 100% since several divers who were in the water rushed over to help him).
There were a lot of mishaps at the dive park this weekend~ just not a good dive weekend
Her skin was pale, her pulse was extremely faint, she had "froth" coming out of her mouth... the guys worked on her until the paramedics arrived (which was an awesome response time-- it was about 3 minutes from the 911 call to the time they pulled up)..
The kelp growth out there is just bizarre right now-- its everywhere, and I was pulling it off of our students (and myself) constantly, so its definitely an entanglement hazard right now..
They put her in the chamber and the last update I heard was that she was responsive and talking. Not sure if there is permanant damage, I guess only time will tell.
Then this morning (sunday), I was in the water waiting for our OW students to leap off of the ledge (where the big rocks used to be at the bottom of the stairs)... when 2 older guys who'd gotten in right after me started talking a few feet from me... One of them said something didn't feel right (he said this 3 or 4 times), said he felt constricted and something was wrong... I guess his buddy said it would be ok once they descended.... Not 5 min later, the guy (who was not feeling right) pops up to the surface alone in a panic~ grabbing at the neck of his wetsuit and it looked like he was struggling.. He was asked if he was ok, but I don't believe he responded coherently~ couple people from the shore got in and pulled him onto the nearest rocks.. I don't think his buddy surfaced until after the fact (but i'm not 100% since several divers who were in the water rushed over to help him).
There were a lot of mishaps at the dive park this weekend~ just not a good dive weekend
saipandiver
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It's really a matter of the instructors vetting their students beforehand and making smart decisions prior to taking them to the Casino ; plus certified divers making some intelligent choices before taking on kelp and California diving. I have been taking students there for decades.
However, I've seen cigarette smoking instructors preaching gospel and practicing nonsense, students precariously setting up their kits on the seawall, student-to-instructor ratios which stretch the limits (including divemaster) of standards to the point of unsafe. On more than a few occasions I have had to pluck students out of the water during surface intervals with my students lending shore support. It can be a complete freak show. However, a good learning opportunity for my students. On certain weekends I could time when the chopper would fly out to the chamber @ Two Harbors.
All I can say is that Baywatch is right there, and thank heaven for that. They are simply spectacular.
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MikeM878
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The Baywatch Crews are great. And lets not forget to thank the Volunteers at the Chamber for their work and dedication.
Missdirected
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One of them said something didn't feel right (he said this 3 or 4 times), said he felt constricted and something was wrong... I guess his buddy said it would be ok once they descended.... Not 5 min later, the guy (who was not feeling right) pops up to the surface alone in a panic~ grabbing at the neck of his wetsuit and it looked like he was struggling.. He was asked if he was ok, but I don't believe he responded coherently~ couple people from the shore got in and pulled him onto the nearest rocks.. I don't think his buddy surfaced until after the fact (but i'm not 100% since several divers who were in the water rushed over to help him).
There were a lot of mishaps at the dive park this weekend~ just not a good dive weekend
Always go with your gut, eh? There is always another day to dive.
Thanks for updating us on the girl Missy
Missdirected
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She was saying that in the instance WC presented that the confidentiality issue wasn't due to HIPPA and she is correct. She did not say HIPPA had nothing to do with confidentiality.
There is no legal requirement for confidentiality for lay rescuers. There is an ethical requirement for confidentiality from professional health care providers, and some very SPECIFIC requirements laid out in HIPAA (which make my life miserable). Lay rescuers have no such obligations, and nobody can sue someone for talking about a rescue in which they took part. (Or, as my husband says, anybody can sue anybody for anything, but there's no legal ground for such a suit.)
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