PADI RDP question

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Tim--

OK, I did a quick comparison of your U.S. Navy tables to my old 1980s PADI Dive Tables (which are copyright 1983, by the way!).

Table 1 was pretty much identical... PADI also had both feet and meters (very good idea!), but rounded off the meters to the nearest 0.5 meter. Because they truncated the table, PADI didn't show any ND limits for depths down to and including 35 ft (hey, I guess they figured at those depths you'd be out of air before you ran out of bottom time); the ND curve only appeared starting at 40 ft.

The old PADI Table 1 only showed depths to 140 ft; I seem to remember that 130 ft was still the rec limit. The other interesting thing, of course, is that the old PADI tables showed some basic emergency deco information below the ND limits; deco stop times, all at 10 ft (considering their 140-ft cut-off).

It's at Table 2 that differences started appearing. The Navy table seems to be more conservative, requiring relatively more SI to get down to a given Pressure Group.

And that threw Table 3 way off, comparing the two tables.

Anyway... interesting exercise!

kidspot:
[U.S. Navy table] I assume it's copyright free since it's a public U.S. document...
I would hope so!! Your tax dollars, and mine...

kidspot:
also I'd encourage you if you have not done so already to pick up a copy of Table Tutor from ScubaToys as it will let you learn tables in both metric and imperial format from: Navy, SSI, PADI, NAUI, as well as nitrox tables and several others... [...] GUE's minimum deco tables are by far the simplest ones - If you ever get the chance to get training in using them jump at the chance
Yeah, probably worth doing.

Um, you had to get that GUE plug in, didn't you?
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(<-- Smiley! Note the smiley!)

Cheers!

Wait... not Aloha... how about "Cze&#347;&#263;"? (Pronounced just like it's spelled in Polish. :eyebrow: )

--Marek
 
Hey Marek,

Thanks for checking it out and letting me know - and yes... I did notice the "smiley" ;) lol - what can I say, I like simplicity and conservatism... along with irony and sarcasm...

Hope you and your family have fun diving together -

Aloha, Tim
 
What a great exercise! I'd just been reading about the history of the PADI RDP, and about the table revisions in the 80's, where they branched away from the Navy tables, but this little exercise really brought home the impact of that development.

Marek, I went through the same exercise as you and got the same results.

And if anybody hasn't taken Larry up on his offer of Table Tutor, you should do it right away. It's a great little program, wonderful for keeping you humble when you get a little complacent on your table use. It also makes a nice little diversion on a long flight...

All the best and safe ascents to everybody, even the GUEers, ;)
Grier
 
Marek K:
I was thinking about this, and was wondering whether the Navy tables maybe only gave RNT... making you calculate ABT by subtracting from TBT. It would make people understand what was going on, but I can't believe they'd require that extra step!

Table 9-7 "Residual Nitrogen Timetable for Repetitive Air Dives" does indeed show only the RNT. The Navy is big on having you calculate things yourself.
 
Thanks very much - after all the [wide variety!] of replies, I sat down again
with my PADI metric rdp, which gave M and P for the 2 dives, extrapolated out of
table 2 to where they meet [0 SI], then worked it back - checks out, tho'
virtually max ndl for the depth. Shwos the various dp's aren't more than a
guideline tho' and supports my caution - look forward to being in touch again.
Ross567
 
Well - you've maybe seen on the board - I appreciated the help, worked through the problem from all angles, answered as a 0 SI but cautionary as almost at limit, so mandatory safety stop after 2nd dive. Hope to keep in touch with board. Ross [Ross567] - now looking to OW status!
 
Best wishes to you - have fun and dive safe!

Aloha,
Tim

P.S. I got my unlock code from Larry this morning - We sure are fortunate to have ScubaToys as part of our online community... Thanks Larry!
 
kidspot:
careful now or I just might quietly slip in another plug :D

Backplate/Wing!!!

I couldn't resist a perfect setup. ;)
 

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