Padi Dsat

[plwtwo]

I always get a kick at how closed minded you guys are... And how far you'll go out of your way to bash PADI.

 

[Blitz]

I always get a kick at how closed minded you guys are... And how far you'll go out of your way to bash PADI.

Read the whole thread. It is more about bashing the instructor.

 

[JeffG]

I always get a kick at how closed minded you guys are... And how far you'll go out of your way to bash PADI.

Maybe they shouldn't release a DVD that show divers doing valve drills and launching lift bags kneeling on the bottom of the pool.

But if you think that is a good display of skill, then the PADI Rec/Tech is for you.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

I don' t care what they do ... I did get a kick out of the "balls of steel" comment, though ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[JeffG]

I don' t care what they do ... I did get a kick out of the "balls of steel" comment, though ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

and for those of you will "balls of steel", you might need this.

http://bartsplanet.com/Images/Videos/nutts.WMV

 

[Meng_Tze]

I always get a kick at how closed minded you guys are... And how far you'll go out of your way to bash PADI.

Lemme guess, you are PADI affiliated and feel attacked? :shakehead

 

[sunnyboy]

Jeff,

Can you PM me with the link to this guy's course? Sounds like a hoot.

As for "balls of steel" - so how much weight can you take off your belt, and does it mess up your horizontal trim?

;-)

-S

 

[Antarctic-Adventurer]

Lemme guess, you are PADI affiliated and feel attacked? :shakehead

I realise that I am resurrecting a thread that is over a year old, but if you don't like the PADI/DSAT Tech course, what agency would you recommend? (Serious question, I am not trolling).

 

[Meng_Tze]

Post 73 pretty much sums it up. The manuals and information in the DSAT books is very well laid out, it is just not backed up with demonstrated skills.

 

[Flightlead]

The "problem" with DSATs course IMO is 2 fold.

1) Deep air. When the poo hits the fan I don't want an END >100ft. Esp. in my cold (43-54F) local waters with less than good vis (4-15ft typically)

2) Loading the guns too early. They have you on deep air with 2 deco mixes (50% and O2 if I'm not mistaken) Now you're a new tech diver with 2 bottles strapped on, one of which will kill you if you mistakenly switch to it at 70ft. I don't know about anyone else but when I started out, having to manage 2 bottles and be perfect while hovering midwater would have been a bit much. I could handle 1 bottle, I could hover in mid-water ok (a bit less than perfect), but 2 bottles would have been dangerous.

That's why the DSAT courses are not prudent IMO. The kneeling thing is just icing.


BTW, GUE gets you to 140-160ft, on trimix with one deco gas in 9 days. 4 for Fundementals, 5 for Tech1 Ditto for NAUI Technical Diver. And yes we dive the same deco schedules on that normoxic trimix as PADI has you do for air. I don't know about the other agencies dicussed here.

the pictures in the book show kneeling true, but you actually have to do it mid-water w/o changing depth more than +/- 2 ft. that includes gas switches, valve drills (<45 sec), bag deployment, deco hangs. don't let the pictures mislead you.

also, in order to pass the 1st course you are doing it with 2 bottles. guess padi is better than naui in that area.

besides all these are spurious arguments. it is the instructor, period, end of story. go find an instructor who is BOTH a good teacher/mentor AND who is a good tech diver and regularly does tech dives. it MUST be someone with whom you can build some decent rapport, 'cos this ain't OW, its tough.

I started with a naui instructor. their material is crap. the "instructor" while being a well known (in this area anyway) long time and apparently accomplished tech diver was less of a teacher and not someone with whom I was able to build any rapport. Once I switched to someone more suitable, I started learning and it had little to do with the printed material.