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Overly Dramatic Title: The Curse of The Most Experienced Diver

Discussion in 'Basic Scuba' started by scubamarketing, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. Searcaigh

    Searcaigh Chromodoris gordonii Staff Member ScubaBoard Supporter

    # of Dives: 1,000 - 2,499
    Location: Dubai, UAE
    As a photographer I try to dive with another photographer or better dive solo or with my personal buddy who might be traveling with me.

    Certainly not into herd diving and if the dive op runs their dives like that I go elsewhere
  2. TMHeimer

    TMHeimer Scuba Instructor

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Dartmouth,NS,Canada(Eastern Passage-Atlantic)
    Yea--I like this answer even better. You would think that between the diver who requires/requests a guide/experienced buddy and the shop/op he signs up for a charter with, the situation should be resolved at the dock beforehand. It would also puzzle me for someone to ask ME to help out when I don't know the site myself. I have done way too few charter wreck dives here in NS to be a DM on the boat-- I don't even take out the liability insurance for it. Which brings us to that whole other discussion.
  3. DevonDiver

    DevonDiver N/A

    # of Dives: 5,000 - ∞
    Location: Subic Bay, Philippines
    If I am paying money to dive, I expect absolute customer service from the dive operation. I am a customer - my dive certification/experience is irrelevant.

    If the dive center has alternative expectations, then the situation will be clarified to them immediately. If I assist their operations, then they either pay me, or I dive for free (depending on what they want me to do). If they want money, as per any customer/diver, then I expect the best experience they can give me. End of story.
    tracydr, BDSC, James R and 1 other person like this.
  4. 261311

    261311 Contributor

    # of Dives: 0 - 24
    Location: Barrie, ON: CAN
    There's a difference between helping divers who look like they need help because you're a good person and a dive op having working expectations of a customer when they're on vacation. Your experience shouldn't necessarily mean you're last in line, or last of the boat and sure as heck not surfacing with others. You're there for the same enjoyment and satisfaction as the others, it sounds selfish but if it makes you feel like an arse to tell the truth and turn someone down, lie. Feel free to jump in if you don't mind and someone looks like they're in danger but eh, if it's just an inconvenience to the DM, I think the charter needs to hire his own assistants. The only person I surface for is my buddy and obviously emergencies/ DM instructed, not someone else who blew their days dive.
  5. Scuba_Noob

    Scuba_Noob Contributor

    # of Dives: 200 - 499
    Location: Victoria, BC
    I also use a camera and want to take good photos without a silt-out. I'm also often one of the more experienced customers on a boat, even though I'm nowhere near as experienced as some people on Scubaboard. I generally try to get in the water ASAP. This gives me time to avoid other divers who often are slower at gearing up and can often silt up the place accidentally.

    I choose my buddy based partially on experience (due to my camera and potential concentration on one photo for a few seconds) and partially based on tolerance of going as slow as possible. This allows for the buddy pair to get geared up as quickly as possible and for me to take it slow with the photos.

    The major problem is that because I enjoy going slow with the camera, the entire group eventually catches up with my buddy group and can silt up the place. A bit annoying, but then we just go to a completely different direction.

    I guess the point is, even with a decent level of experience, I'm pretty self-centered about my diving habits. I'm not an instructor or a DM, so I never get asked to help with anything anyway. However, if I get to that level, I still will probably only show my AOW and Nitrox cards.
  6. Tigerman

    Tigerman Contributor

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Norway
    I tend not to be THE most experienced but thats only because the other guys I normally hook up with is even more so. Being experienced, being known by the dive op to be able to handle issues and on top of it traveling alone - although often as part of a larger group - I do tend to be asked to "pick up the new guy" so to speakand Im generally fine with it, simply because the ops I use is good at putting fairly experienced people on the boat with us.
    When diving some "easier locations" we do tend to have more less experienced people on the boat, but I know that opting to go to those sites and dont generally mind picking up a newbie - its actually fun most of the time. I dont surface with them after 40 minutes when I have plenty of gas though. I send them with the intern/DM candidate/IDC and continue diving..

    "Our" boat (other than when going to said easier sites) tend to have an average of 200+ dives - guides not included..
  7. supergaijin

    supergaijin Contributor

    Get an experienced buddy- go diving by yourselves. Follow the 'conduct' as defined by the operator (max. depth, minimum reserve, deco/no deco, dive time etc.)

    As a photographer it's usually easy to avoid silt-outs if you do not purposefully follow the leader. Stay a couple of metres shallower or out to the side.
    TSandM likes this.
  8. Tigerman

    Tigerman Contributor

    # of Dives: I just don't log dives
    Location: Norway
    Or just lose your guide alltogether like Ive done on a few occasions (with my buddy). They dont generally have heart attacks as long as TWO people are missing, its when its only one thats gone they freak :p
  9. Cosimo_Zaretti

    Cosimo_Zaretti Registered

    # of Dives: 50 - 99
    Location: Sydney
    Why not just signal to the DM that you and your buddy are splitting off rather than leaving them guessing?
    tracydr likes this.
  10. Jim Lapenta

    Jim Lapenta Contributor

    # of Dives: 500 - 999
    Location: Canonsburg, Pa
    Doesn't give em a chance to give you grief over it.

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