FIXXERVI6
Contributor
What the heck its a slow day...
My opinion...
If a certified adult wants to break their limits, dive deep air, do deco with no redundancy etc etc all that stuff we are "not suppose to do", well, my opinion is I don't care.
If they are over the age of 18, well, they know what the ultamite risk is, if they want to gamble with their life thats their choice and they should have the right to do so.
So specificly to people breaking their certification limits, it happens, its going to happen, I did it, and plan on doing it in the future (I'm only certified to 200' for example, or at least I think its 200, I don't really care). A card does not make you safe, there are people sporting cards that are not safe, but I've done dives with people that I later found out were way beyond what they were certified for and I'd go do it again with them - its in the skill not the plastic. With that said, people need to do the training (training not "get the certifications" being properly trained and certfied are two different things these days).
Its all risk vs reward
People breaking their training limits are increasing their risk for some form of reward, you have to ask yourself, is the additional risk I am about to take worth the reward.
Now, my beef with this...
1. People that break their limits in sensitive access sites.. if you want to play russian roulette do it in your bath tub or your own pond.
2. Instructors/Dive masters - like it or not you are a professional in the industry and part of that is image, people will copy you and do as you do, when I see instructors and dive masters being bone heads it burns my hide - your a prof. act like one, practice what you preach, if thats too much then stop being a professional in the industry. If your a Padi dive master diving to 200 on air and talking to people about it, well, your stupid, you have a responsibility to the industry so keep that stuff in your group or to yourself.
3. Don't be a bone head and drag others with you - espeically if your a pro in the industry. If your gonig to be stupid I wish you fun, but please do not put others at risk, sometimes even information about being stupid will put people at risk.
Why do divers do this?
Same reason why we drive 90 on Texas freeways, risk vs reward, if I drive 90 my chances of killing myself go up but I get there faster, mash that peddle.
Combine that human nature with the downplay of the dangers of scuba, and you end up with what we have. I don't want to preach fear but people do not have a healthy respect for what diving can do to you - I feel todays traning is inadequate (not trying to spin another topic) but maybe they need to show video to all new divers of people toxing (the video's are out there) people screaming in pain from the bends, people choking up blood. Just like they show kids rotton lungs from smokers, its hard to get peoples attention "don't go deep its dangerous" next topic - thats really going to be effective.
I tell people that and they are like "thats sad you view it this way" or "no one would dive" blah blah blah hey whatever, its reality, it happens - this is what can happen to you -
First thing when I started cave training the moment I sat down they put on a video, of a simulated cave fatility, tried to simulate the scratching of the nails on the walls and everything - first thing.
The point wasn't to "scare us away" the point is - wake up this is the cold hard reality of this, if you can't accept it take up tennis.
Combine human nature with factory style training, mix it all up reall good, throw on a dash of (some) professionals being just as wreckless and whala scuba!
With all this said I have respect some of the instructors out there, I couldn't do what you guys do.
have fun!
Yes I know I have a problem with run on sentences, deal with it.
My opinion...
If a certified adult wants to break their limits, dive deep air, do deco with no redundancy etc etc all that stuff we are "not suppose to do", well, my opinion is I don't care.
If they are over the age of 18, well, they know what the ultamite risk is, if they want to gamble with their life thats their choice and they should have the right to do so.
So specificly to people breaking their certification limits, it happens, its going to happen, I did it, and plan on doing it in the future (I'm only certified to 200' for example, or at least I think its 200, I don't really care). A card does not make you safe, there are people sporting cards that are not safe, but I've done dives with people that I later found out were way beyond what they were certified for and I'd go do it again with them - its in the skill not the plastic. With that said, people need to do the training (training not "get the certifications" being properly trained and certfied are two different things these days).
Its all risk vs reward
People breaking their training limits are increasing their risk for some form of reward, you have to ask yourself, is the additional risk I am about to take worth the reward.
Now, my beef with this...
1. People that break their limits in sensitive access sites.. if you want to play russian roulette do it in your bath tub or your own pond.
2. Instructors/Dive masters - like it or not you are a professional in the industry and part of that is image, people will copy you and do as you do, when I see instructors and dive masters being bone heads it burns my hide - your a prof. act like one, practice what you preach, if thats too much then stop being a professional in the industry. If your a Padi dive master diving to 200 on air and talking to people about it, well, your stupid, you have a responsibility to the industry so keep that stuff in your group or to yourself.
3. Don't be a bone head and drag others with you - espeically if your a pro in the industry. If your gonig to be stupid I wish you fun, but please do not put others at risk, sometimes even information about being stupid will put people at risk.
Why do divers do this?
Same reason why we drive 90 on Texas freeways, risk vs reward, if I drive 90 my chances of killing myself go up but I get there faster, mash that peddle.
Combine that human nature with the downplay of the dangers of scuba, and you end up with what we have. I don't want to preach fear but people do not have a healthy respect for what diving can do to you - I feel todays traning is inadequate (not trying to spin another topic) but maybe they need to show video to all new divers of people toxing (the video's are out there) people screaming in pain from the bends, people choking up blood. Just like they show kids rotton lungs from smokers, its hard to get peoples attention "don't go deep its dangerous" next topic - thats really going to be effective.
I tell people that and they are like "thats sad you view it this way" or "no one would dive" blah blah blah hey whatever, its reality, it happens - this is what can happen to you -
First thing when I started cave training the moment I sat down they put on a video, of a simulated cave fatility, tried to simulate the scratching of the nails on the walls and everything - first thing.
The point wasn't to "scare us away" the point is - wake up this is the cold hard reality of this, if you can't accept it take up tennis.
Combine human nature with factory style training, mix it all up reall good, throw on a dash of (some) professionals being just as wreckless and whala scuba!
With all this said I have respect some of the instructors out there, I couldn't do what you guys do.
have fun!
Yes I know I have a problem with run on sentences, deal with it.
