Opinions please...

[ZzzKing]

I find this a very interesting opinion and triggers some comments from staff I heard ealier this week.

This one individual made it clear to me she got her OW cert at Lake Travis, worst experience of her life in low viz. She is a certified diver, but not an active diver. Only wants to dive (resort) exotic places a couple times a year with a local dive operation that puts her gear together and even on her. She is not going to dive locally after the experience at Lake Travis and is not interested in diving the Gulf. She made it clear to me that she is going for the experience and does not want to have any additional training.

Since I don't fit this category of diver I have to ponder how many people feel the way she does that is out there diving. (certified)


Regards,

I know several. I'm married to one. She'll go out a time or two to tune up for a vacation but otherwise isn't interested in local diving. Now the four year old, I'm seeing some potential there! Just tonight she asked when we were going camping with the scuba divers again. The baby hasn't shown much interest yet. I guess he's still recovering from that 9 month shallow water dive he just finished up a couple of months back. It's just as well. I haven't found gear to fit him yet.

 

[richerso]

Very interesting comments / opinions in here. Some of these observations scare me even more than my imagination does. That's scary! I am somewhat of a pessimist by nature. Yet, some of these stories have exceeded my pessimistic imagination.

Well, let's just say I am guarded in all situations. I assume that if something can wrong, it will. I better be able to save myself (or accept the consequences). But this is just my view on life. I certainly recognize, though do not understand, that there are other people out there who are not proactive, contingency planners for potential misadventures. There. That's my $20 sentence of the week.

Hi ZzzKing ! ! !

 

[lmwb_1977]

Very interesting comments / opinions in here. Some of these observations scare me even more than my imagination does. That's scary! I am somewhat of a pessimist by nature. Yet, some of these stories have exceeded my pessimistic imagination.

Well, let's just say I am guarded in all situations. I assume that if something can wrong, it will. I better be able to save myself (or accept the consequences). But this is just my view on life. I certainly recognize, though do not understand, that there are other people out there who are not proactive, contingency planners for potential misadventures. There. That's my $20 sentence of the week.

Hi ZzzKing ! ! !

Can you give an example in this thread of those not being proactive or contingency planners? Anytime , and EVERYTIME I dive I personally always have a contingency plan and I am always proactive in looking for murphys law before he finds me.

 

[scubashawn123]

Can you give an example in this thread of those not being proactive or contingency planners? Anytime , and EVERYTIME I dive I personally always have a contingency plan and I am always proactive in looking for murphys law before he finds me.

Good advice to quote a cliche...........KISS (Keep it simple) less room for error and mistakes or setting yourself up for failure. Solve your first problem first and move on from there.


Shawn O.

 

[richerso]

I believe lmwb asked for examples:
Here are the ones I found in this specific thread:

Example #1:

I saw this happen at CSSP this past weekend. A guy had two boys with him, but only one of them had gear on, the other kid just had swimming goggles and fins on. The guy tried to bring his son down to the plane with him breathing on his octo, but after a couple of attempts he realized that the kid couldn't equalize the goggles. I just sat there on the shore with my 14 year old son and said "don't you ever do that."

Do I really need to say anything about this one?

Example #2:

This one individual made it clear to me she got her OW cert at Lake Travis, worst experience of her life in low viz. She is a certified diver, but not an active diver. Only wants to dive (resort) exotic places a couple times a year with a local dive operation that puts her gear together and even on her.

I am sorry. This scares me.

Example #3:

For example...Divers letting their computer go into deco.
Denise

Scares me.

 

[lmwb_1977]

I believe lmwb asked for examples:
Here are the ones I found in this specific thread:

Example #1:

Do I really need to say anything about this one?

Example #2:

I am sorry. This scares me.

Example #3:

Scares me.

Okay just wanted to make sure I wasnt scarey lol...its the girl in me

 

[TishaDee]

I may be mistaken about this and if so someone please correct me and show me the exact reference, but while it's believed by some and perhaps implied in at least some PADI literature that OW qualifies you to only go to 60 fsw, AOW to 100 fsw and the Deep specialty certification to 130 fsw, as I carefully read the PADI literature those are not hard and fast rules, but guidelines only and the more important criteria is diving within your experience level, thus it's entirely acceptable within the PADI system for a properly experienced OW diver to go past 60, even to 130.

And for those that couldn't care less about PADI or other agencies, see the posts below,

I can't speak for PADI's depth limits because I crossed over with their specialties and don't know the specifics of their dive limits, but for those interested in NAUI here is what I was taught by my instructor and what I know my NAUI OW and AOW cards certify me to:

OW = 60ft and AOW =130ft. I know NAUI also has a Tech Diving Cert and if I remember correctly it certify's you to 230ft. Since NAUI doesn't have specialty cards like other agencies, your specialities are essentially built in to their AOW course. Meaning all AOW students are required to do both a deep dive which is defined as >60 ft but < then 130ft as well as a night dive; in addition to the two specialities dives which you get to choose.

In our case, my husband and I chose Navigation and Photography as our choosen specialties with our NAUI AOW course cert and although we were trained and successfully completed open water dives for both specialities, we do not hold cards saying that we are navigation or photography certified.

 

[richerso]

LOL ! Oh no! Lisa! You are all good! And don't let ' 40 ' dives scare you off!
We all had ' 40 ' dives at one time. Trust me on this one!

It's got something to do with honesty and number theory as it applies to the Arabic numbering system. Go figure.

 

[Ryanh1985]

I have the mind set of, experience and learning (Both through instructors, experience and mentors), is worth more than any cert card. Diving wise I think I have learned more though just diving and meeting people and talking than any class has taught me. Book wise, sure I have learned a lot in classes. In the end it all comes down to what your are comfortable with doing and what risk you are willing to take (and that risk better be well thought out and not put any one else in danger.) IMO this goes with anything in life.

 

[blueeyz78]

I don't think anyone is being defensive, but they/we are giving you our opinions. This group isn't shy about that. This is a pretty sensitive topic. It's like asking what the best way to sling deco tanks is, or whether you're a fan of DIR, or not. You're gonna get responses.

Gotta love the written language. Always loss some context/meaning of what is being said.

I am glad the group is not shy. This has been a very interesting thread and I have enjoyed reading what everyone has to say.

Thanks to everyone for sharing your thoughts!!!!