One piece harness question for PB&W

[WaterDawg]

There IS good diference between 3 and 7 mill. If the Harness fits properly w/ a 7mill its probably too loose for the 3, but it should work.
An easy solution is to just mark the harness w/ a paint pen at your 3 and 7 mil spots.
I have used the same harness for just a tshirt and then a 5 mil but it feels tight w/ the 5mil!

 

[jonnythan]

Perrone, just FYI, the webbing is $10 but expect to spend another $20+ for the rest of the harness hardware (buckles, D-rings, triglides, etc).. Al plate + harness should be expected to be $80-$100.

 

[ccohn2000]

OK, just my own 2 cents. I have a BP/W and I use a 7ml suit. I went to Cozumel over the summer and just wore a skin. I didn't adjust the webbing and I didn't have a problem at all. Nothing slipped and everything was totally comfortable. (Especially the really warm water...sigh)

 

[TechBlack]

There's a 1/8" difference between a 7mil and a 3mil, you should be able to switch from suit to suit without any major trouble. Best bet is to try it out and see how it feels. The difference might not bother you. Keep in mind it's nice to have the shoulders snug and the wait/crotch straps slightly on the loose side.

 

[PerroneFord]

Good call.

Perrone, just FYI, the webbing is $10 but expect to spend another $20+ for the rest of the harness hardware (buckles, D-rings, triglides, etc).. Al plate + harness should be expected to be $80-$100.

 

[GreenDiverDown]

Personally, I don't find making adjustments very easy...with maybe one notable exception... Tobin's plate. His plate inserts make webbing adjustments relatively painless. You still have to futz with the left waist D-ring, waist buckle and maybe the crotch strap, but the webbing adjustments on the plate are much easier than with standard plates where you have to play with keepers. Either way, marking the webbing helps a lot...much better than guessing each time or going by the indentations left in the webbing from a previous use.

I prefer to have a different plate for each setup. This gives you a couple of things. You don't have to make webbing adjustments and you have plates of different weights appropriate for different exposure suits. For instance, an Al plate might be just right for a 3 mil, but a standard SS plate might be better for the 7...and an even heavier plate might be best for a drysuit. While this might not be an innexpensive solution, it does make use of the unique advantage of interchangabilty that a BP/wing offers...fine tuning for different needs.

I'll admit, however, that there are times that I use a plate that has been set up for a 1/4 in suit with a thin shorty. It's a little sloppy but not too bad.

 

[matt_unique]

Been looking seriously at going to the dark side. The simplicity of the one piece harness appeals to me, but I wonder will I have to keep adjusting it for different wetsuits. In the course of the season I switch between a 7mm and a 3mm suit depending on the conditions. Does a properly rigged onepiece have enough play to accomadate this?

Am I over analyzing?

They say "your distinctiveness will be added to our own" but don't you believe it! Before you know it you'll be on the Scuba Board asking if your car is DIR approved! I say we visit the borg (aka Dark Side) for some good ideas then return to our realm for others.

Ha ha ha - OK - seriously - it's not a big deal to adjust the webbing (for one piece or deluxe harness) for the amount you are talking about with one suit to the next.

--Matt

 

[Rec Diver]

Been looking seriously at going to the dark side. The simplicity of the one piece harness appeals to me, but I wonder will I have to keep adjusting it for different wetsuits. In the course of the season I switch between a 7mm and a 3mm suit depending on the conditions. Does a properly rigged onepiece have enough play to accomadate this?

Am I over analyzing?

Why not just purchase an adjustable harness system made by OMS. This will eliminate costantly adjusting the webbing thru the plate. The adjustments can be made after you have your BC, or BP & W, on. It works very well. I use this set up with my 3mm all the way up to my dry suit.

 

[wunat]

Why not just purchase an adjustable harness system made by OMS. This will eliminate costantly adjusting the webbing thru the plate. The adjustments can be made after you have your BC, or BP & W, on. It works very well. I use this set up with my 3mm all the way up to my dry suit.

The "Dark Force" has led toward webbing.

My adjustable harness system is now replaced with the webbing...............yes, I am crossing over........................ :14:

 

[hambleto]

Personally I dive my harness rigged the same regardless off exposure protection. I have used the harness, with 7mil, Dry suit, 2mm, and bare skin. It should not slide off but still be loose enough you can take your rig off without any trouble regardless off exposure protection.

I am not sure what you mean by dark side. Nevertheless, the BP/Wing has been around LONG before it was consider “Tech” or “DIR”. It is just a simple, durable, and cost effective solution. You will not regret your decision.