octopus regulator

[large_diver]

I was practicing out of air drills in the pool Wed. night (7' primary hose/bungeed back-up). IMHO having a left vs. right handed octo DOES NOT in any way inhibit this process with a longer hose regardless of where the OOA diver is positioned.

 

[roakey]

Originally posted by large_diver
I was practicing out of air drills in the pool Wed. night (7' primary hose/bungeed back-up). IMHO having a left vs. right handed octo DOES NOT in any way inhibit this process with a longer hose regardless of where the OOA diver is positioned.

The "bungeed back-up" is confusing me.

Do you mean a bungeed octo or that you were diving with a 7' primary, a necklaced backup AND an octo?

Roak

 

[devilfish]

Reading the posts it is obvious why correspondence scuba courses as they are becoming so popular nowadays don't work. There are so many opinions written that a student by the time arrivies in class is so confused that most has to be unlearned. It is much easier to teach it right the first time.
As for the OOA diver taking the prime out of the donnors mouth, HA! Jump in the pool and let's play. There are ways most not known, most not practiced, most forgotten ways the OOA diver will never see or get the prime reg.

 

[budgy]

Hi Guys,
I think in any real out of air situation snatching the reg from the buddy's mouth is all you may have time for. I have practiced the without warning snatch, and I would say it is a bit alarming at first. It is the way I think I should train, and be trained.
In the practice scenario there is no out of air stress, the buddy is expecting and looking for the signal and is prepared to donate.
I expect in real life it may go more like this, breath out, pause, can't breath in, buddy finning out of reach and oblivious to your problem, when you get in range it will be to late to engage in polite hand signal conversation.

 

[large_diver]

7' primary

necklaced back-up (using bungee for necklace) -- bungeed back-up was a poor choice of words.....

devilfish -- I thought you started this thread asking for opinions....but yet every time someone offers one, you get rather critical.....

BTW -- just curious -- doubles AND a pony?

 

[devilfish]

Yes I did start the post as for the reg left or right and why. As to which reg to offer is another topic. I do appologize. As to which reg to offer to an OOA is not an option. In a standard setup primary and octopus, the octopus is for the OOA not the prime reg in the donnors mouth. The last thing the donnor would want to give up is the prime which is the only reg working 100% at the time if the donnor is to be in full control of the situation.
As for the 7' hose, if the donnor is to take it 7' hose is not needed. If the OOA is to take it the OOA should not be 7' away. The 7' hose is for out of air exits with obstructions such as caves.

 

[roakey]

Originally posted by devilfish
As for the OOA diver taking the prime out of the donnors mouth, HA! Jump in the pool and let's play. There are ways most not known, most not practiced, most forgotten ways the OOA diver will never see or get the prime reg.

Examples, please.

Roak

 

[roakey]

Originally posted by devilfish
As for the 7' hose, if the donnor is to take it 7' hose is not needed. If the OOA is to take it the OOA should not be 7' away. The 7' hose is for out of air exits with obstructions such as caves.

What part of the word OPTION didn't you understand?

This is the reason I usually stay out of these “should I do this or should I do that”-type questions and contribute only to the “what should I do?” questions.

"Which side should I put the octo" is at the same level as someone asking “I want to get into stock car racing, what do you recommend, a Yugo or a Volkswagen Beetle?”

The absolutely safest way to handle an OOA diver is to donate from your mouth and have your backup necklaced around your neck and test it at the start of each and every dive. The industry “buy a cheap octo and stuff it in your pocket and forget about it while it fills with silt and sand and then hand it off to someone who’s desperate for air” is promulgated by an industry that's paralyzed over the fear of litigation. The industry is unable to move on to better methods because they might be sued over the inferior methods they’re teaching now (and hiding behind the word “standard” in the process).

By donating from your mouth the OOA diver is absolutely guaranteed that they’ll get a working reg, since it was “tested” on the donor’s last inhale.

Technical equipment has no place in recreational diving? The BC, the SPG, Nitrox and even the octo were once “technical” equipment.

Roak