Octo Regulators

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Any real advantage to having the octo regulator the same make (or model, for that matter) as the main regulator (assuming they're bought separately, of course)? Or, to put it another way, does the octo really care what first stage is providing the air source (again, assuming the octo is calibrated etc properly)? This is, again, is assuming they are roughly the same grade level etc.
 
They are simple machines - as long as the output range of the first matches the input range of the second, life is good.....
 
No, As long as 1st and octo are compatible.....
 
Well, you wouldn't have the potential disadvantage of needing to take your equipment to two different places for service if you don't have someone who services both brands.
 
I can tell you from first hand experience, at least make sure your primary and octo are the sane brand. A shop had sold me 2 different brands and other than that shop that was 2-3 hours away, nobody local could service both. Wound up trading in that octo and spending another $75 to get on that was the same brand as my primary.

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As said, other than ease of service there is no functional problem. remember that the alternate may need to be tuned to the IP of the 1st stage regardless of brand.

Pete
 
Most shops will service off brand octos, but they may not be able to provide free parts under warranty. In most cases the average OW octo is pretty generic in terms of the seat used, so it's not a major service issue, but using third party generic seats can be a liability issue for a shop.

As noted above, life is easier in terms of servicing if all the stages on the reg are the same brand.

In terms of quality, I like to ensure the performance of my back up regulator is as good as my primary regulator. Something to consider is that in a real out of air situation, you are quite likely to end up getting mugged for your primary and ending up on your own octo.

Even if you are superbly trained and disciplined for an OW diver, it's just a reality that divers get separated enough that by the time you notice you are out of air, your buddy has swam on and you're now playing catch up. When you finally do catch up, there won't be much of the signaling out of air and waiting for permission business. There also won't be much time looking for the octo somewhere on your buddy, and the temptation will be incredibly strong to go for the reg in your buddy's mouth. It's a strong argument for the long hose primary and primary donation.

If you're in doubt of that, have your buddy swim at a normal rate way from you. When he gets about 30' away (assuming you have the viz) partially exhale and stop breathing and try to catch him to share gas. Leave the reg in your mouth as the odds are good you may need it to take a breath.

In terms of octo quality, having an octo that is very responsive and can deliver a lot of gas to a severely short on air and near panicked diver is a good thing to have. And, in the event the diver goes for your primary, murphy's law dictates he'll do it just as you finishing exhaling, so by the time you locate your octo and purge it, you'll appreciate a decent performing buddy as much as an OOA buddy would.

Leave the cheap bubble packed octos on the sales rack and buy one as good as your primary.
 
Personally I like my secondary to be the same as my primary because when I donate the long hose I want to keep breathing off the same quality/kind.
 
I would recommend using a decent regulator and tuning it down so that it doesn't free flow. Since I use a long hose, I pass off my primary and breath of my " octo", which is my old primary.
I've been helping with my local shop to get my DM. They use some cheap Sherwood's for octos and those things breathe so wet that when I share air I come up coughing and choking every time. Not just me because the other DM has the same problem.
We've tried everything we can to get those octos to breathe better but theyre just crap. I pretty much end up doing a CMAS and pretending to breathe off the octo since we're doing the exercises from shallow depths anyway. Would hate to use those octos in a true emergency!
 

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