No Trolling?

[Walter]

Pug, I'm sure you don't mean it to come across this way, but your latest post could be read as you wanting to control discussions in the DIR forum. I know you are merely trying to help, but sometimes it's difficult to get our thoughts across exactly as we intended.

I'm curious, has there been a serious problem with trolling in the DIR forum? If there has, I can understand the intention of the new rule. If there hasn't, why try to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

 

[boomx5]

. This will be my last post in the DIR forum. For me this forum no longer exist.
Fred

Pug threw down the gauntlet and you got your toes stepped on because you can no longer troll the DIR forum. You are extremely anti-DIR so why would you care anyway.

 

[Uncle Pug]

Walter,
My post above is a sincere offer to help those who would like to post questions but seem to be uncertain as to what might constitute trolling. I will not be controlling the discussions but I will be patrolling the discussions.

The DIR forum is operating under a tighter application of the rules with less tolerance of disruption. The reason for this is the history of the divisiveness generated by the subject itself and also the desire to provide a lower SNR for those who are truely interested in finding out about DIR.

Scott... actually no gauntlet thrown... I am not challenging anyone to a duel... in this case that would be unfair. What I am doing is attempting to be as clear as possible about both the intent of this forum and the rules of participation.

 

[100days-a-year]

I propose a new certification...DIR-T.This certification will allow you to become familiar with the various subtleties of the English language as it relates to asking questions about diving DIR without trolling.The above is offered in jest.
I am happy to see this proscription here.I am quite sure this rule will not be used to in any way control or alter the civil discussion of DIR diving.It is sometimes up to a group to "censure"not "censor" it's members in order to maintain clarity and avoid emotional verbiage and rhetoric.I also applaud the "no agency bashing" rule.

 

[The Chairman]

Walter and all...

DIR seems to bring out both the best and the worst in people. Fortunately for some and unfortunately for others, now that we have a DIR forum the trolling seems to be concentrated here. Of course, you may not see the trolls, because we are getting efficient at cleaning up problems. To be sure, this has been an experiment for us (as with many other aspects of the board) and we are learning what will work and what won't as we go along.

The control of trolling IS a legitimate question, especially after the post on trolls. Pug has not edited, castigated not otherwise banned anyone for having a difference of opinion here. IOW, he is not using a bully pulpit to control the tenor or direction of the posts at all.

As for other agencies, well there is a forum for all of the instructors. No, most of you probably can't see it as you have to have special access to get back there. We thought of doing that here, but decided to leave it open for others to get the most from it. But we won't let it devolve into a "Why dohn't you do it this way" forum. It is dedicated to all things DIR. If you don't like DIR, then I imagine that this immense board has something for you somewhere; but just not here!!!

 

[Walter]

Pug,

"My post above is a sincere offer to help those who would like to post questions but seem to be uncertain as to what might constitute trolling. I will not be controlling the discussions but I will be patrolling the discussions."

I understand this, in fact, I said it in my post. I'm merely afraid it may look as if conversations are being controlled or that you may want to do so. This perception would not be good for the health of the board. I believe it might be best if everyone is more careful to avoid giving this impression. I don't see this happening right now.

 

[Bob3]

Then there are the wiseazzes that have a dry sense of humor...

Maybe we could just start a "permit system" where every cheap shot at "posts of questionable merit" are charged a dime or something.

 

[cornfed]

I'm not Pro DIR and there is nothing I can learn from the forum anyway... Argueing on the internet over somthing like DIR is Stupid and I for one will no longer waste my time doing so. This will be my last post in the DIR forum.

So this guy posts specifically to explain why he won't be posting anymore. That's funny by itself, but the irony of it in this thread is too much!

 

[MikeS]

On the other hand, many people have already made up their mind as to how they are going to dive, and DIR is not a possibility.

How is that different than “doing it right” divers deciding that there is only one way to DIR?

I say, let the diving principles stand on their own. If they can’t hold water, pun intended, than what are they worth?

It’s amazing how your morals are changing since you own the board. Didn’t you originally fight the DIR position “tooth and nail?” We could do a search, but since you own the board, it might not show up what one would expect.

Mike

 

[The Chairman]

MikeS, I surely agree with that concept... diving principles should stand on their own merit.

But this forum is about DIR diving and not about diving in general. This gives them a place to discuss how DIR divers feel it should be done without others passing judgement on why. It is certainly not a place to come tell DIR divers that they are Doing It Wrong. That is JUST as offensive as a DIR diver coming into the basic diving forum and telling us we are all strokes and are doing it wrong.

However, this forum is not meant to restrict DIR divers from posting HOW they dive on other forums, and you are more than welcome to challenge them as to why they do it there.

IOW, when I go to the Florida Conch Diver's forum, I don't expect to read something from the DeepSouth Divers flaming us or trolling to pick a fight. But if I tell people on the Basic Scuba Forum why we Floridians are superior divers, then you have every right to take task with that.