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RICHinNC once bubbled...
There is no such thing as FREE ENTEPRISE in the scuba business in the US of A

You are correct. When you open a dive shop the manufacturers, cert agencies and the insurance company tell you exactly how you are to do business. I (as an LDS owner) am not treated like a customer of the manufacturer I am treated like an employee and not a valued one at that.
 
If that's the way they choose to do business, I guess that's their choice. Seems that there's still a demand for their products, though.
 
Hummmmmm, the scuba industry is a strange one, it always seems like its trying to screw the very people it relies on, but as far as worrying about price, in regards to what Arnaud said, I woulden't worry mate.. after seeing how much an IQ-400 computer goes for online on US based websites (US$150-170) I turned up at my LDS expecting to pay a no doubt somewhat inflated price on that, probably $US180, after all thats logical it has to be shipped here from the States I assume they dont make them here, but what price am I quoted..?

$US260

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM :upset: :upset: :upset:

When that happens I coulden't care less about being loyal to a LDS, I'll just hunt for the best deal within an hours drive of me.. mmmmmmm, ,I needed to vent over that one ;)
 
20 + years ago "grey market" cameras were the big deal. Large shops (predominantly in NYC) found that they could import directly from the manufacturer at much lower costs. At first it was a big deal with some shops not acknowledging what they were doing and some calling them "black market" items. Then they were termed grey market products as the only downside was their avoidance of running the products throught the authorized importer. Then the process was "mainstreamed" and the distiction was US or international warranty.

The scuba market is just a lot smaller and 20 years behind the camera market.

Dave D
 
dmdalton once bubbled...
20 + years ago "grey market" cameras were the big deal. Large shops (predominantly in NYC) found that they could import directly from the manufacturer at much lower costs. At first it was a big deal with some shops not acknowledging what they were doing and some calling them "black market" items. Then they were termed grey market products as the only downside was their avoidance of running the products throught the authorized importer. Then the process was "mainstreamed" and the distiction was US or international warranty.

The scuba market is just a lot smaller and 20 years behind the camera market.

Dave D

Many of our products do come streight from the manufacturer. Others come through a distributor. Overseas prices may just be lower and the rules may be different, I don't know. In this country though companies like LP are not buying from the manufacturer of a distributor. When you see a Zeagle reg on the net cheap it isn't comming from over seas. Zeagle is a small Florida company and to my knowledge they don't use any distributors. We get the stuff strieght from them.
 
MikeFerrara once bubbled...


Many of our products do come streight from the manufacturer. Others come through a distributor. Overseas prices may just be lower and the rules may be different, I don't know. In this country though companies like LP are not buying from the manufacturer of a distributor. When you see a Zeagle reg on the net cheap it isn't comming from over seas. Zeagle is a small Florida company and to my knowledge they don't use any distributors. We get the stuff strieght from them.

If each LDS directly and individually orders from the manufacturers, they're left with a fairly small leverage. Having a wholesaler or a buying co-op negotiating large volumes could help. I don't know about distribution in general in the States, but in Europe, that's how small businesses can remain competitive. Large chains buy directly from the manufacturers while independent businesses are usually supplied through wholesalers.
 
Krisscuba once bubbled...
ScuaPro sells online under the name of TUSA

Is this true....Im a total NOOB to SCUBA but I do know I want Scubapro... And I also know almost everything can be bought cheaper online.
 
MORPHIOUS once bubbled...


Is this true....Im a total NOOB to SCUBA but I do know I want Scubapro... And I also know almost everything can be bought cheaper online.

No, it's absolutely not true at all. Tusa's line of gear is completely different from Scubapro's.

However, I would suggest you hang out on the board and read the equipment forums for a while before you settle on any one piece of gear. Chances are you'll buy something, spend some time advocating and defending your purchase, then go and realize you wish you had bought something else, put your original purchase on ebay, then go buy the thing you REALLY wnted in the first place :D
 

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