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Hey has anyone heard about DiveCons now being required to have an "O2 provider" course? (this is in addition to and seperate from the CPR/First Aid cert)....

AFAIK, it's been required for at least a few years.

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Bob I am curious how you felt about the class. Did you find it useful? Are you glad you took it? What points in the class where most relevant to you?

I ask becouse at first I had the same opinion as Pvt Stash. After implementing it into CPR/First Aid and O2 administration I think it should have been required long ago.

Yes, I felt the class was very useful and well worth the $50 (including materials) that I paid for it. I have no medical background other than the first aid and CPR class that I took just prior to it.

The most relevant thing to me was to get hands on experience with a DAN O2 kit and handling the medical equipment. When I dive locally, I almost always have a stage bottle of O2 with me in the event of a diver surfacing injured. I was already well aware of the benefit of O2 to an injured diver but, until then, I had never even touched medical grade equipment. I would have had no idea how to use it until that class.
 
Thanks for taking the time to answer Bob.
My experience in real accident's has shown me the same as you said. Most people haven't been exposed to or don't know how a medical grade system operates, and when you add in the stress from a real accident it is worse. We all practice basic diving skills until they become habit, so when an emergency strikes we don't even have to think about doing it. A little practice with the emergency care skills goes a long way also when it is needed.
 
do you happen to know whether PADI's Divemaster's have also adopted this additional training or is it strictly an SSI course-change ?

No, the PADI Instructor Manual states that a DM canidate must only have completed the EFR course within the last 24 months. I don't think EFR includes O2 training.
 
that one would even need a "class" to put someone on O2... stick it in the nose and over the ears, turn it on and Voila!..., you Cant do it wrong... and on the surface you cant hurt anyone (its not like their gonna tox or anything)... seems jus' like another way to exort another $100 out of you... you need a "Class" to learn how to put someone on O2? really? ... seems to me you could cover that in 5 minutes of your Stress/Rescue class. :(

Administering O2 around here without training will get you in serious trouble with the law.
 
Hi Bob-

I am new to the forum, and am wondering about the costs involved with this. Can you elaborate?
 
Hey has anyone heard about DiveCons now being required to have an "O2 provider" course? (this is in addition to and seperate from the CPR/First Aid cert)....

It has been required for sometime now.
 
do you happen to know whether PADI's Divemaster's have also adopted this additional training or is it strictly an SSI course-change ?

SSI & PADI have adopted international/european/worldwide standsrds
 
that one would even need a "class" to put someone on O2... stick it in the nose and over the ears, turn it on and Voila!..., you Cant do it wrong... and on the surface you cant hurt anyone (its not like their gonna tox or anything)... seems jus' like another way to exort another $100 out of you... you need a "Class" to learn how to put someone on O2? really? ... seems to me you could cover that in 5 minutes of your Stress/Rescue class. :(

Knowledge is power. My first O2 class as an Instructor was in 1988 and to my knowledge these classes have always been available. Highly recommended but, not required.
You might consider taking the class because using a nasal system and just turning the O2 on does not suffice. And, it can be done wrong.
Extort $100.......you cause me to chuckle. 5 minutes in a stress & rescue class? We charge $45.00 for the cpr/1st aid/O2 and the course depending on prior cert is no less than a 4 hour class and typically 8 hours.
As an Instructor...ignorance is not acceptable in an accident.
Good luck in your future O2 class.
 
In a dive accident it would be difficult to use the medical equipment if you have never seen it before. You need to administer 100% O2 via non rebreather or demand valve. A non rebreather won't get you a true 100%, so a demand valve would be better. As a dive con, whatever the cost it is cheap insurance in relation to the cost of not knowing how to handle the equipment. With a dive con or higher C Card the legal standard is what a prudent person with that training would do and they would administer 100% O2. I would take the class as it is good information. (I have to state I have not taken the class as I am a medical professional who teaches Advanced Life Support)
 
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