Nestle wants to bottle water from Florida's Ginnie Springs -- for free

[The Chairman]

It probably will not be full again for a while but it will get there. .

Citation needed. I have seen nothing to support this premise.

 

[RyanT]

Wow, discussing complex topics in what amount to "sound bites" on the web is difficult. I would love to have this discussion with my fellow SBers in person. If only such an opportunity existed....oh wait, I think they're called invasions. Hope to make one, one of these days!

 

[rjack321]

I guess you could give Nestles a tax subsidy for bringing in the jobs and then charge them for the water.

or you could tax the business like everyone else AND charge them for this semi-renewable resource held in trust by the public. Minerals aren't free, even oil and gas rights which are not usually owned by the land surface pay royalties. All that after they demonstrate that the impacts would be minor... And yanno maybe it won't make economic or environmental sense and they will pass on this development opportunity.

Letting anyone develop this resource whenever they want to for free just leads to someone else having to deal with a depleted well or brackish water - or no spring at all for some cave dives.

 

[kelemvor]

Wow, discussing complex topics in what amount to "sound bites" on the web is difficult. I would love to have this discussion with my fellow SBers in person. If only such an opportunity existed....oh wait, I think they're called invasions. Hope to make one, one of these days!

There's also MegaDive at Ginnie Springs, Florida! Next one is Oct. 25th - 27th. It's a great time for such discussions, especially after binge drinking.

 

[RyanT]

There's also MegaDive at Ginnie Springs, Florida! Next one is Oct. 25th - 27th. It's a great time for such discussions, especially after binge drinking.

 

[The Chairman]

Did he mention it was at Ginnie???

 

[NAM001]

Citation needed. I have seen nothing to support this premise.

everything runs full circle. lake travis took probably 3 years to refill but it will happen. not a citation issue. its much like the caves when a storm hits they get stirred up and in time they settle down and clear up again. Its just nature.

 

[StefinSB]

Yes it is but fixing our 1% totally changes nothing in the global picture. The efforts are misdirected by sounding alarms in the US as compared to other countries. Yes we need to be more thoughtful in any waste disposal. The panic reminds me of hte clinton automakers thing about making a polutant free auto for 14 trilion. Then a scientist came out and said that one poof of a volcano is equal to 10.000 years of auto emissions.

Perhaps we cold buy other nations plastics and use it to make roads but that still does not eliminate the source of the problem. And as a side thing what would people take to the beaches to drink from. the plastic was shifted to to avoid glass. I dont know what is done with recycled plastics that are collected. I suppose they are being dumped in the oceans and that has to stop. Just like haz mat dumping in teh oceans by manufacturers is wrong the problem of eliminating it is a daunting one.

Ever heard about the concept of leading? If this is indeed “the greatest country on earth” it sure can lead an effort for the greater good.

 

[The Chairman]

everything runs full circle.

No. Not everything runs full circle. I haven't seen the rebound of the long spine spiny sea urchin in the Keys. There were a 140 sink holes that were created one winter in a Florida county due to farmers pumping too much groundwater to fend off a winter freeze. They haven't filled in yet.

 

[rddvet]

everything runs full circle. lake travis took probably 3 years to refill but it will happen. not a citation issue. its much like the caves when a storm hits they get stirred up and in time they settle down and clear up again. Its just nature.

As someone who lives with a water scientist who specifically works with the aquifer and in particular using cave diving, I will tell you you’re wrong. There is already irreparable damage to our aquifer that will never be fixed and the aquifer will never be “full” again. It is in a state of constant depletion even with major storms. Comparing a lake to the complex Florida aquifer doesn’t work. I thought I knew a lot about our caves and aquifer. I learn something new and fascinating from my wife every week. She is currently using genetics of microorganisms in specific caves to prove that a municipality is damaging our aquifer by injecting excess grey water into the aquifer. I’m nowhere near as qualified as she is, but I can tell you you’re wrong. When people see heavy flow return to the springs and caves they often believe that means the aquifer is replenished. We haven’t seen the aquifer even close to replenished in many many years. And that goes for all of our aquifers (because most people don’t realize how many separate aquifers Florida has)