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Hi All,

Long time lurker/first time poster here... I'm fairly new to SCUBA & have the opportunity to buy a Scubapro MK 10 Regulator with G-250 2nd stage in like new condition for $150 (at this stage, I'm looking to buy used stuff out versus something new out of the box). I know that it's in great shape, and has only been used a couple of times, but I have no idea what its maaintenance history is...

Anyway, I know that this is a fairly old setup (I haven't been able to find anything recent on them) but does anyone have any feedback/opinions on this type of rig?? Ideally, I'd like something I can use now, but also grow into vis-a-vis nitrox, etc...

Thanks!!!
 
Hey John, I dive with the exact setup you are thinking of buying. With 297 logged dives, mostly in B.C.'s frigid waters, it has served me well. If you do buy it I would strongly recommend having it serviced before useing it.
Andrew.
 
If you don't buy it I will.

The Mk 10 is more or less the AK-47 of regulators. It is durable, simple, prolific and offers enough performance for any diving situation. It is pretty much bullet proof and will provide enough gas with a stable enough intermediate pressure to maximixe the performance of a high quality balanced second stage like the G250.

The G250 is actually superior to the current G250HP in that it has a metal air barrel which greatly reduces dry mouth and improves heat transfer in extremely cold water. They are more highly sought after by knowledgeable divers than nearly all other currently available second stages.
 
I agree with DA Aquamaster... I'll buy it, too. I dive Mk10/G250's almost exclusively and have thousands of dives on mine. I'm always interested in picking up another one, so you'd better go for it. Of course you should get it serviced before you use it.
 
Great regulator - you will not be disappointed with the performance. But $150, while fair, is not a great buy unless it includes a current service or octo and gauges. Service history is probably not too important as long as it is working now and no one has grossly overtorqued any of the more critical fittings like the turret bolt or the yoke nut. Key is that it is working now.
 
Terrific reg.

Great reg too if you ever intend to service it yourself, too, being straightforward and having a minimum of unecessary parts.
 
Hello John,

Welcome to SB. I see that you are a new member but already you have been fortunate enough to have been advised by at least 4 of the most knowledgeable denizens of this site. DA, drbill, awap and Vance (oxyhacker) are all regulator gurus. On first thought, I believed that $150 was a bit steep, but after seeing their advice I have to stand corrected. One question I had was answered by Skookumchuck; it seems to be a good regulator for cold water diving, but is a cold water kit required?

couv
 
akscubaduck1:
I found that it just traps salt water inside your first stage.
The Mk 10 uses small holes in the ambient chamber about 1/16" in diameter. The idea was for them to be large enough to let water in to act on the environmental silicone inside the ambient chamber but to be small enough to make it hard for the silicone to ooze out (it still did in hot weather).

Later Mk 10's and Mk 10+ regulators had a groove cut in the first stage just in front of the yoke to hold a hard rubber boot to seal off the larger (about 3/16" diameter) holes into the ambient chamber. On these SPEC (Silicone Protected Environmental Chamber) booted regs, you can turn the boot to align the holes in the boot withthe holes in the first stage when diving it without silicone in the ambient chamber or rotate the boot to cover the holes to retain the silicone when it was silicone filled.

The small holes in the early Mk 10 make it hard to rinse as they limit water transfer. It's not a bad idea to get a dust cap that fully seals the first stage inlet (tested by sucking hard through the second stage with it installed and gettin NO air at all) and then soak the first stage after each dive day or dive trip in hot tap water to remove salt.

This older style also has less heat transfer due to less water flow through the ambient chamber and they are more likely to freeze up in very cold water if the ambient chamber is not silicone filled. Although I have never had one freeze up on anything short of an ice dive. If you consider 45 to 60 degree water to be "cold" you will never have a problem.

The later style Mk 10 is both easier to rinse and more cold water freindly without silicone in the ambient chamber. Scubapro moved away from silicone filled ambient chambers entirely about a decade ago when they switched to Christolube for nitrox compatibility. Consequently, SPEC boots and environmental silicone are no longer available from Scubapro and silicone will not be installed during an annual service.

Corrosion in the ambient chamber is probably the biggest killer of older Mk 10's as the ambient chamber is in the body of the first stage rather than in an easy and inexpensive to replace swivel cap as is the case with the Mk 5, Mk 15, Mk 20 and Mk 25.

The Mk 9, Mk 10 and Mk 10+ were the only first stages SP ever designed that had the ambient chamber in the body and it was with good reason they went back to the basic Mk 5 design in their later first stage designs. This is the only inherent weakness in the Mk 10 design but it is not really an issue on the later Mk 10's and Mk 10+'s and it is not a serious issue on an earlier Mk 10's as long as they are properly rinsed.

To put it in perspective, I see a large number of these first stages in for service every year (more than any other single model) and perhaps only one per year has to be retired due to corrosion or wear in the first stage body and the cost of repair versus replacement. This is an excellent statement about Mk 10 durability when you consider that these first stages are all 12 to 25 years old.
 
Thanks for the advice/help guys. I picked the reg up this am, and am very pleased. It's pretty much like new, and the paperwork on the manual which came with it indicates that it was manufactured sometime after January 1990. Now to get it serviced (I took a couple of puffs after he hooked it up to a spare tank & it was great, but I'm not going to mess around with it...) & in the water!
 

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