whynot
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Late to this party but - per the installation guide, yes, the dimensions are the same. https://www.sitech.se/media/90632/gluing-guide-for-neck_web.pdf
Neck Seal Systems (Orust) for smaller persons?
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Not orust but I use second generation neck ring, I'm 172 and skinny as a bean, on land walking to water I can feel it, in water where it counts, it disappears.
Our shop has rental suits in sizes down to women's extra small and our main dive site is a long walk up and down hill in gear.
I haven't seen any major issues with the quick neck on smaller divers. Everyone regardless of size finds the gear more comfortable in the water than on then walk. Perhaps more so for smaller divers but that's hard to quantify.
My personal suit is definitely less comfortable and harder to don and doff since I had a quick ring installed to replace a glued in neck seal. But having my glued in seal split just before a dive was all I needed to convince me the quick ring is an improvement. (Luckily for me one of the other divers on the boat had rented 2 different dry suits for the weekend to compare before buying and I was close to his size and able to do the dives that day)
I haven't seen any major issues with the quick neck on smaller divers. Everyone regardless of size finds the gear more comfortable in the water than on then walk. Perhaps more so for smaller divers but that's hard to quantify.
My personal suit is definitely less comfortable and harder to don and doff since I had a quick ring installed to replace a glued in neck seal. But having my glued in seal split just before a dive was all I needed to convince me the quick ring is an improvement. (Luckily for me one of the other divers on the boat had rented 2 different dry suits for the weekend to compare before buying and I was close to his size and able to do the dives that day)
I'm 5'7", narrow shoulders. I have the second generation Si-Tech neck ring, I think it was called Quick-Neck? My straps sit partially on it. Doesn't affect in water feel in my opinion. Might slightly limit mobility on land - I THINK it makes it harder for me to reach over shoulder to zip drysuit, could be just me. I guess there is some sacrifice for being able to quickly swap out the seal if needed.
Why do you want a neck ring system? Typically, for slender folks silicone neck seals work quite well as they tend to be more snug. Dilute baby shampoo with water with 1:10 ratio, spray around the neck seal, and viola - easy entry w/o tears.
whynot
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Can’t speak for OP but:
First of all, you’re going to need a neck ring system, or something like DUI zip seals, if you want a silicone seal - they are not glueable like latex.
Now reasons as to why? Ease of changing the seal - a silicone seal will rip and at the worst time like before a dive. I can, and have, changed out a ripped silicone seal with a spare in less than 5 minutes.
I thought I'd bump this up since I recently bought a suit with the Orust and previously had a neck tite. I don't have narrow shoulders but I found the neck tite would push straps off and was generally not amazing in the water.
DRAMATIC change in feel. Like I can't tell it's there at all, just lays against my body.
I do have concerns about dislodging the clips but the suit has a warm neck collar which covers them and that is probably something I'd want on any Orust install.
When I need to replace the seal I'm tempted to see if a neoprene replacement will fit in this system like the others. I'm concerned the added thickness will be more than the clips can handle.
DRAMATIC change in feel. Like I can't tell it's there at all, just lays against my body.
I do have concerns about dislodging the clips but the suit has a warm neck collar which covers them and that is probably something I'd want on any Orust install.
When I need to replace the seal I'm tempted to see if a neoprene replacement will fit in this system like the others. I'm concerned the added thickness will be more than the clips can handle.
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