My first dive with Halcyon Pioneer 27 lbs BP/WING

[divegeek]

James Goddard once bubbled...


...The general consensis is that the thing is a death trap...

It's also really big and ugly! It's like the Anti-Backplate

 

[jplacson]

James Goddard once bubbled...


Ok, I'm going to assume for a moment that bringing up the HUB in a BP/Wing thread is not a troll.

Do some searches on the HUB. The general consensis is that the thing is a death trap. Hiden inside the unit is an array of hoses and connectors that signficantly multiple your failure points. In addition the octo is hidden and the inflator is in a complely non-standard location.

hehehehe... sorry... didn't mean to.

Oh yes, and I saw all the potential problems the minute I saw the jacket. The hidden octo & non-standard inflator location isn't something I really consider an issue... but I do consider the mechanical working to be a major flaw.

Maybe if you only use this thing for a few months... before all the internal workings start to snag and jam...

It's a nice concept though... it just has too many moving parts.

Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum is my future Halcyon 27 which I wish had at least a shoulder dump

 

[HammerNoMore]

divegeek once bubbled...


I DID cut the webbing, but I left about 15". Not that I'm going to do it right away, but do you have a link for a metal shoulder buckle?

(I meant cutting the shoulder strap to put on a buckle . Trimming the ends is fine)

Use a standard weight buckle. Just like the one that came with your MC system for the waist band. I wouldn't try to attach any kind of "quick disconnect" on to your webbing.

You just slide your sholder in one side then put the other side together with the buckle. When I first tied a BP it was configured this way. I thought I'd give it a chance without and I really never found the need for it. It is actually easier for me to get into my BP/Wing than it ever was getting into my Ranger.

 

[divegeek]

jplacson once bubbled...

...Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum is my future Halcyon 27 which I wish had at least a shoulder dump

Are inflators from different brands interoperable? I saw (on the OMS site) an inflator with an integrated shoulder dump.

http://www.omsdive.com/bcaccess.html (no this isn't an OMS troll)

 

[Gator Diver]

what are those websites you were talking about
to help you with configuration?

 

[divegeek]

newbie-in-fl once bubbled...
what are those websites you were talking about
to help you with configuration?

http://dir-diver.com/en/equipment/backplate_adjustment.html

The other one was someware at http://www.baue.org/index.html but I can't find it (I have the link at home). Email me at: charlie@habergroup.com and I'll send it to you tonight.

 

[cornfed]

jplacson once bubbled...

I was checking out Dive Rite's as well... seems bigger at 30lbs... and finding a dealer in the Phil is pretty tough.

"Phil" as in Philadelphia? Try NE Scuba Supply, http://www.northeastscubasupply.com/ , they carry both Halcyon and Dive Rite.

Cornfed

 

[jplacson]

Oh sorry... I meant Phil, as in The Philippines. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[roakey]

divegeek once bubbled...
The other one was someware at http://www.baue.org/index.html but I can't find it (I have the link at home).

http://www.baue.org/images/galleries/view_album.php?set_albumName=equipment

Roak

 

[cornfed]

jplacson once bubbled...
Oh sorry... I meant Phil, as in The Philippines. Sorry for the confusion.

np, that's why you should fill out the "Location" field in your profile...