My experience with DSS.

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Empty V:
That's one of the reasons why I think I'm going to stay away from DIR. Any method that starts off stating that everything else that has ever been done is wrong, is bogus to me. Reminds me of Heaven's Gate, more kool-aid please!

Sorry for Hijacking your thread Midnite135, I should have expected this to happen.

Billy

That is a shame. Please don't confuse an employee of an equipment manufacturer with DIR, they are not the same thing.
 
NWGratefulDiver:
I would counsel you to withold judgment until you get to actually meet and dive with some DIR-trained divers. Most aren't as bad as the Internet conversations make them out to be ... and they make great mentors.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

But you know how we can be....

* Me and Claudette never have fun on a dive.

* And we're such a couple of hardazzs when it comes to non-DIR divers.

* We're prickly and unapproachable.

* We scowl and snarl. We never laugh or cut up. Diving is far too serious for such frivolity.

* We cast down all non-Halcyon gear. Uh, except for Salvo. And ScubPro. And DSS. And Oxycheq. And Dive Rite. And Worthington....yeah - they suck. But no other gear is allowed. Well, maybe Atomic. Suunto. Aeris. DUI. Bare. But nothing else. Except maybe Cressi. And Mares. And maybe OMS... but only their SPG. Sort of. Never ever, ever anything that's not black. Except your Dry Suit. And maybe your wetsuit. Your hood. Your booties. Maybe your gloves. Oh, Crap. Dive with whatever you want...

* Oh yeah - We eat our young and spit on the homeless.

* We hate chocolate and don't use deodorant.

* Big fish avoid us cuz we're clowns in the water.

* We never invite Non-DIR divers into our private dive cult. Especially cool night dives.

* Of course we never loan gear to non DIR divers - like lights and tanks and stuff. Forget about it.


Dude - If you need to rant on something (and you know I love ya, Billy) stick with something you can speak intelligently to. In SoCal you're surrounded by many of DIR's finest ambassadors. If you're hating on DIR its because you're holding onto the sour grapes you came in with. None of the SoCal DIR divers I can think of you could have every possibly dived with recently have been anything less than accommodating, welcoming, gracious and fun.

Did I mention skilled? Yeah - there's even some of that down here.

Oy. :rolleyes:

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Ken
 
Quarrior:
I think your LDS has worked extra hard to earn and keep your business. I hope you return the favor.

This is how all LDS' should be doing business.

I just bought an Aqua Lung Legend LX Supreme reg + octo im just waiting for it to be delivered to them, however I bought my SPG from TDL who are also very helpful but thats for another thread.

I will give them alot of money, but not necessarily all of my business.

That said, they seem really good about some things like that, but I did my OW classes through another shop that turned out really poorly, so did my checkout with this shop im dealing with now(SSI), they helped out on the BP/W purchase but when I did my AOW in Hawaii from a PADI shop they blasted PADI and make it sound to me like they will not recognize the AOW for continuing ed through SSI. This is a discussion that will be hammered into soon, but shouldnt they recognize each other?
 
I know the agencies recognized each other's qualifications when it comes to diving. However, when it comes to training, I do not know.

Have to remember, these agencies are "for profit" companies. There is no over all organization that sets the standards.
 
Mo2vation:
Dude - If you need to rant on something (and you know I love ya, Billy) stick with something you can speak intelligently to. In SoCal you're surrounded by many of DIR's finest ambassadors. If you're hating on DIR its because you're holding onto the sour grapes you came in with. None of the SoCal DIR divers I can think of you could have every possibly dived with recently have been anything less than accommodating, welcoming, gracious and fun.

Did I mention skilled? Yeah - there's even some of that down here.

Oy. :rolleyes:

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Ken

Ken,
I wish you could have read a PM I sent to someone regarding this post. I told him about the amazing DIR divers that I have dived with (mainly you, Claudette, Josh and Adam) and how welcoming and you all are. I also explained how the times I have dived with the likes of you, you did not force a sermon or lecture on me. For that, DIR still remains a possibility. There are a lot of things that bug me about DIR, but there are also a lot of amazing aspects to it, and I'm still learning. I knew this would stir the water a little bit, thankfully, I have people like you and the others I named who are always here to help, hopefully one day I can return the favor.

Billy
 
midnite135:
That said, they seem really good about some things like that, but I did my OW classes through another shop that turned out really poorly, so did my checkout with this shop im dealing with now(SSI), they helped out on the BP/W purchase but when I did my AOW in Hawaii from a PADI shop they blasted PADI and make it sound to me like they will not recognize the AOW for continuing ed through SSI. This is a discussion that will be hammered into soon, but shouldnt they recognize each other?
That's very strange ... agencies generally recognize each other's certifications until you reach the "professional" ranks ... DM or AI level ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
Empty V:
Ken,
I wish you could have read a PM I sent to someone regarding this post. I told him about the amazing DIR divers that I have dived with (mainly you, Claudette, Josh and Adam) and how welcoming and you all are. I also explained how the times I have dived with the likes of you, you did not force a sermon or lecture on me. For that, DIR still remains a possibility. There are a lot of things that bug me about DIR, but there are also a lot of amazing aspects to it, and I'm still learning. I knew this would stir the water a little bit, thankfully, I have people like you and the others I named who are always here to help, hopefully one day I can return the favor.

Billy
No worries Billy ... lots of us go through the same process of ideas that you are. You should go read some of the DIR-based posts I put on the board four or five years ago. It would be hard to reconcile them with where I'm at today ... ;)

Your views will be shaped by your experiences ... and grow as you do.

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 

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