My AN/DP/Helitrox course

[ChuckP]

It's a pretty easy boat to dive from, all things considered. The other alternative would be to find a better strengthening regimen and ensure she can work towards walking up the ladder by yourself. Fully kitted I imagine moving from a single to double HP80s addeds ~35lb of net weight.

It's not like she wants them throwing rose petals at her feet, carrying her tanks from her car and setting her gear up for her. Some folks just can't ever physically walk two tanks up a ladder - knee problems is just one of the things. I'm sure there's more than a few divers that have physical limitations - my wife is one of them.

You work towards a goal of self sufficiency but sometimes there is a physical limitation. I suppose you'd tell the paralyzed vet that he needs to spend more time in the gym....

 

[Dark Wolf]

It's not like she wants them throwing rose petals at her feet, carrying her tanks from her car and setting her gear up for her. Some folks just can't ever physically walk two tanks up a ladder - knee problems is just one of the things. I'm sure there's more than a few divers that have physical limitations - my wife is one of them.

You work towards a goal of self sufficiency but sometimes there is a physical limitation. I suppose you'd tell the paralyzed vet that he needs to spend more time in the gym....

I may be wrong, but that isn't how I interpreted his post.

Having said that I believe people are usually capable of much more than they think. A limit to the capabilities? Absolutely. But, in my experience, that limit is usually further than most people realize.

DW

 

[ChuckP]

I may be wrong, but that isn't how I interpreted his post.

Having said that I believe people are usually capable of much more than they think. A limit to the capabilities? Absolutely. But, in my experience, that limit is usually further than most people realize.

DW

It’s tough to overcome mechanics, a wacked knee or a fused spine. Push it so far and where’s the joy? This is supposed to be fun...

 

[Dark Wolf]

It’s tough to overcome mechanics, a wacked knee or a fused spine. Push it so far and where’s the joy? This is supposed to be fun...

I don't recall saying how far to push it. That is an individual decision, and frankly, none of my business. What I can say is that the OP (who I think pretty highly of, so there is no mistake) once stated (paraphrasing here) that there was no way she would ever be able to dive BM steel doubles.

Personally, I wish her the best of luck regardless of which system she chooses.

DW

 

[Marie13]

I now know the boat policy I have to work with. It’s non-negotiable and there are NO exceptions. I’ll mention it to the instructor I’m diving SM with this weekend. I’ll see how things go this weekend and go from there.

Frankly, as of today, I still think SM is much more trouble than its worth. The only positive in my book is much easier valve drills. The only twinset negatives are getting all that weight up the ladder and valve drills. Dealing with a deco bottle in SM looks hellish. So much easier with a twinset. But if I want to dive the deeper wrecks, I may not have much of a choice.

 

[abnfrog]

i cant believe a dive op would not help a physically challenged diver , in 30 + years of teaching 40 + years of diving ,i have never seen that ...... i honestly would move heaven and earth to try to get my own boat or other divers help, ive passed my doubles up to a boat crew tons of times here , but like chuck say their boat their rules

 

[Marie13]

i cant believe a dive op would not help a physically challenged diver , in 30 + years of teaching 40 + years of diving ,i have never seen that ...... i honestly would move heaven and earth to try to get my own boat or other divers help, ive passed my doubles up to a boat crew tons of times here , but like chuck say their boat their rules

Their boat, their rules. It is what it is. I either deal with it or go elsewhere.

 

[MichaelMc]

@Marie13, When they say 'hand their tanks up on the ladder' do you mean half climb the ladder, then disconnect tank, then hand it up? That sounds rather hard. Is that how people pass up stages? And your waters are not calm placid ones.

I think I'd be constructing a drop line.

Realizing these are Covid rules not normal ones.

ETA: The SeaQuest II and Go Between have high platforms, I can see how on the ladder would be the only way to pass something up.

 

[Marie13]

@MichaelMc

Policy for amount of assistance given to divers has nothing to do with CV-19. I was told they don’t want crew hurt with heavy lifting.

 

[lowviz]

I was told they don’t want crew hurt with heavy lifting.

Jeez. What a bunch of princesses!

How about this? A line for hanging bottles, weight belts, oxygen, and whatever the rest of the peeps on the boat clip to it:



The knots are spaced to make heaving it easier. The loop goes over a cleat and you clip a weight onto the ring to keep it down. Just don't bang anything against the side of the boat when you retrieve it. Clip a surface marker or something like that to the loop around the cleat to remind you that it NEEDS to be out of the water before the cap starts the boat.

Ya wannit? I don't dive like that anymore...