More basics...kicks

[hvulin]

That is how I figured it out.

The other question is how do you tell your mentor/instructor/frequent dive buddy (all the same person) that they should consider other methods of propulsion?[FONT=&quot][/FONT]

just say it... if they argue about it you should change your dive buddy/mentor/instructor...

 

[xiSkiGuy]

The GUE site shows a diver using a high frequency kick with little or no glide portion. The video on 5thd-x website shows a diver doing what I would call a modified frog kick with glide portion... still moving along quite nicely but without significantly straightening the knees.

http://www.5thd-x.com/index2.html

However, IMO most recreational divers would be better served by slowing down and learn to be still... maintaining a fixed position without any finning, hand or foot.

Proper positioning, precise maneuvering, efficient propulsion are all skills to be be learned and honed. Folks just need to know that there is such a thing and that it is desirable.

Yep. Figuring out that I needed to know these things was the biggest breakthrough/eureka moment I've had in my short diving career. Scubaboard is such a great resource.

 

[Adobo]

Maybe there should be another speciality class for this. PPP (Peak Performance Propulsion)

And if agencies and instructors could make money from this they might take it seriously.After all,if there is not a class for it how can it be important?

There actually are a couple of organizations that offer the classes on "basics" that seem like most divers don't learn (or are not taught) in open water classes. The classes teach bouyancy, trim, propulsion techniques, situational awareness, dive planning (including alternative ways to think about gas management) and safety skills.

 

[D1V3R]

I pretty much exclusivly use the frog kick as to not stir up silt
that is extremely annoying
the onlt time i use the flutter, is when im swiming upside down (i.e. on my back) because with my setup i lean slightly forway when im upside down so flutter kick works best

 

[Randy43068]

There actually are a couple of organizations that offer the classes on "basics" that seem like most divers don't learn (or are not taught) in open water classes. The classes teach bouyancy, trim, propulsion techniques, situational awareness, dive planning (including alternative ways to think about gas management) and safety skills.

GUE comes to mind.

 

[Uncle Pug]

the onlt time i use the flutter, is when im swiming upside down (i.e. on my back) because with my setup i lean slightly forway when im upside down so flutter kick works best

Flutter kicking while on your back during a surface swim probably won't cause a silt storm... but when swimming upside down close to the bottom a different technique is called for. It is somewhat like a knock knee'd toe sweep bringing the legs together while extended straight out behind you. Ankle sculls can be used to backup.

 

[D1V3R]

hmmm, never hear of that before
i usually only swim like that when im in open water and away from the bottom

 

[Uncle Pug]

hmmm, never hear of that before

It has its applications.