Master Diver specialties

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KatieMac

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I'm torn. I would like to complete master diver (PADI) but don't know which specialties I should do. I've done Nitrox already so that's one down. I thought about PPB but will I get anything from this if my buoyancy, trim and weighting are already good? Should I focus on something else then?

Certainly Wreck will be one of them. What are the most interesting specialties? Which ones will make me a better diver?
 
The NAUI Master Diver is more challenging than the PADI.

If you want to do PADI I would consider:
Nitrox 40%
Deep
Wreck
Night
something you enjoy, the above 4 are to make you a better more well rounded diver.

Rescue is required and does not count as one of the 5 specialties.
 
I'm torn. I would like to complete master diver (PADI) but don't know which specialties I should do. I've done Nitrox already so that's one down. I thought about PPB but will I get anything from this if my buoyancy, trim and weighting are already good? Should I focus on something else then?

Certainly Wreck will be one of them. What are the most interesting specialties? Which ones will make me a better diver?
Deep, yes, also Navigation. Depending on the instructor PPB might really tune up your trim and teach you some new and useful fin kicks. Depending on the instructor, Wreck. Depending on the instructor, Search and Recovery. Depending on the instructor, Fish ID. Depending on the instructor, Night. It really depends on what you already know, what kind of things you want to do u/w, and what your instructor is good at. U/W Photography can be excellent if you are Interested in it and the instructor is a good u/w photographer; otherwise it is a waste of time and money.
 
Spend money on more diving, and a full specialty rather than "a watered down exposure class"....
A little confused. Were they asking about a "watered down exposure class" like AOW specialty dives or specialty cert courses? I thought the question was what specialty course would be worthwhile. Or are you saying that the cert courses are watered down exposure courses?
 
A little confused. Were they asking about a "watered down exposure class" like AOW specialty dives or specialty cert courses? I thought the question was what specialty course would be worthwhile. Or are you saying that the cert courses are watered down exposure courses?

The PADI Master Diver... It is "I did a bunch of dives" card... (Or how I viewed it based on me, a non-pro, signing a guy's log book so he could submit for dive credit for him to get it...).

As mentioned up thread, a different agencies program is a whole lot more (which I experienced first hand).

I could be wrong...maybe it was just the shop/instructor cutting corners.
 
The PADI Master Diver... It is "I did a bunch of dives" card... (Or how I viewed it based on me, a non-pro, signing a guy's log book so he could submit for dive credit for him to get it...).

As mentioned up thread, a different agencies program is a whole lot more (which I experienced first hand).

I could be wrong...

Bob, you actually need the full specialties for PADI MSD. But maybe there also is a certain number of dives needed.
 
First, a clarification. Of course I already have Rescue and per OP, I've already done Nitrox. I like your thoughts @tursiops - depending on the instructor. Couldn't agree more.

I'm not sure what fish ID can give me that I can't find out on my own - a personal interest of mine. But U/W photography absolutely is. Wreck too.

As for specialties, don't you do 5 full specialties for Master Diver? So nothing is watered down. The only watering down is when you have a sh!tty instructor.

Can someone tell me more about the Deep specialty?
 
MSD for PADI requires:
  • Rescue (which requires AOW (which requires OW) and EFR of some sort),
  • 5 other completed specialties (value depends on what you want out of it, what courses you choose to take, the instructor, etc YMMV),
  • 50 logged dives, and
  • a credit card.
I'm a couple of dives short of MSD, but all other requirements are there. Don't know if I will pick up the card or not. A couple of the specialties I took were wasted time and effort (underwater naturalist - I still can't figure out what the frack that had to do with scuba diving nude - and I figure I pretty much figured that one out at 3 years old in the tub all frothed up with Mr. Bubble), some not a waste (I found the Equipment Specialist really good - a semi-serious diver kinda needs an appreciation for how our equipment evolved and how it goes together and works - aside from being better prepared to fix minor issues that may crop up on that liveaboard. It may sound like a dry, boring non-wet specialty but I'd suggest you put that one on your list of specialty certs to get.)

I think the basic specialty programs have value in that it gets folks involved and provides a very basic amount of knowledge to build a base from.

My next adventure, in about a year, will be solo diver (probably from SDI - if nothing else to get exposure to a different cert agency and since it's been reported that there are operations that look at "Self-reliant" diver card and go "Hey, that's cute, but you don't have a card that says "Solo Diver" do you(?) so here's your newest and bestest dive buddy friend!).

After that then I'd like to do some tec learning. I don't want to be a pro, I don't want to go in caves, I don't think I want to go INTO wrecks, but I'd like to understand more about the deco process/planning, the physio models of what is happening in the body/tissues, gas requirements, equipment requirements. I would like to go a little deeper, for a little longer, than 10 minutes at 130. And I am less impressed with seeing a hard-to-find-sand-burrowing-worm or flashy colourful little fishy dandy than I am taking a look at some of our naval or maritime history and some of that is a little bit deeper.

Not to throw shade on Padi's program (or NAUI, or SSI or SDI or anyone else), but I'll likely do something more along the lines of IANTD or RAID when I actually get to that point. I am an academic nerd and lean towards the more esoteric theory side of stuff.

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