Mares Rover 12 reg Vs Scubapro mk 17 r395

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Other option Mares V32 and proton ice extreme with rover octo same price of the MK17-R395 even if the proton is not adjustable all mares have DFC that makes them work with any second stage easily
 
Go with a Mares Abyss or Proton. You can't get a better cold water reg. I got an Abyss because it wasn't adjustable. Why would you want to buy a reg that needs to be adjusted when you go diving?
 
well I am a tech at my shop and I service Mares, scubapro, Sherwood, Aqualung, Zeagle, oceanic and cressi. now the old mares stuff was great, don't get me wrong there. No complaints with the olde models except when they stopped making kits for certain of their regs. Also, faqir enough they have had their issues with recall...I don't kno, maybe this is just in my area or in Canada but all the shopds that I know the service Mares around me do not sell mares gear. just because of the nightmare their new gear is becoming. Both from a tech perspective (donno bout where you are but in Canada getting parts is lie trying to pull teetm an alligator) and more retail as well. I mean look at their fins. The quattro used to be a fabulous fin, now we don't sell them due to the fact that 70% of them do not last more then 50-60 dives (they tear where the rubber meets the plastic no matter how well you treat them) and we have people left right and center complaning as a whole about the Mares product. So call me jaded, but Mares' gear is lacking the quality that it once had. Futhermore after digging into which companies are hurting from the crash in the economy, so the decine in the quality in some of their gear may be due to this....who knows. All I know is that Aqualung/Apeks gets my votes her 10 out of 10.

Again, just my opinion.

Cheers

Given the choice, I would not buy either. Aqualung/Apeks has really pulled up their sock and ll their regs are easy to service and the new line breaths (in my opinion, having used the Abyss, proton metal, Mk25T S600T, Legend ACD, Titan Supreme ACD, XTX 200) alot easier and they back their products a lot better. Also from a tech perspectivethey are much easier to service
 
PADIinstructor

Thanks for detailing what you are seeing with Mares. My only experience with Mares regulators is with the Mares regs I own and service (6 sets so far :D ).

It may be that there is a difference in parts availability in different areas... I live on a smoking rock stuck in the middle of the Pacific (Island of Hawaii), but have been able to get rebuild kits within a week of ordering them... and I'm not in the Mares "food chain", just a regular individual, not a dealer. Maybe this has changed in the last several months since I last tried to get Mares parts.

Again, if you are seeing quality slip, that is a shame.

Best wishes.
 
well I am a tech at my shop and I service Mares, scubapro, Sherwood, Aqualung, Zeagle, oceanic and cressi. now the old mares stuff was great, don't get me wrong there. No complaints with the olde models except when they stopped making kits for certain of their regs. Also, faqir enough they have had their issues with recall...I don't kno, maybe this is just in my area or in Canada but all the shopds that I know the service Mares around me do not sell mares gear. just because of the nightmare their new gear is becoming. Both from a tech perspective (donno bout where you are but in Canada getting parts is lie trying to pull teetm an alligator) and more retail as well. I mean look at their fins. The quattro used to be a fabulous fin, now we don't sell them due to the fact that 70% of them do not last more then 50-60 dives (they tear where the rubber meets the plastic no matter how well you treat them) and we have people left right and center complaning as a whole about the Mares product. So call me jaded, but Mares' gear is lacking the quality that it once had. Futhermore after digging into which companies are hurting from the crash in the economy, so the decine in the quality in some of their gear may be due to this....who knows. All I know is that Aqualung/Apeks gets my votes her 10 out of 10.

Again, just my opinion.

Cheers

Given the choice, I would not buy either. Aqualung/Apeks has really pulled up their sock and ll their regs are easy to service and the new line breaths (in my opinion, having used the Abyss, proton metal, Mk25T S600T, Legend ACD, Titan Supreme ACD, XTX 200) alot easier and they back their products a lot better. Also from a tech perspectivethey are much easier to service

Apparently, the parts problem is not an issue everywhere. I am a Mares tech, and recently placed a pretty big order for parts. Of the entire order, one item was on back-order from Italy. In fact, I placed the order on a Monday, and received the shipment the same Friday. To me, that's pretty quick service...

I am also curious as how Mares quality has decreased. I've been diving since 1974, and have yet to notice that their workmanship has declined.

BTW, I also own, or have owned regs, from many of the major manufacturers and I have yet to see a "piece of junk" from any of them.

As far as performance goes, I have a few of my own restored vintage regs from the early 1970's that were tested on Scubapro's ANSTI simulator back in 1999. One of them, a 1970 Voit Swimaster MR12 posted scores that easily exceeded the current EU qualifications. Another, a Scubapro MK5/109, narrowly missed current USN "Class A" standards.

As far as Mares fins delaminating...One thing that I am certain of...Mares will replace them at absolutely no cost. It must be a recent issue, because my Quatros have close to 500 dives on them. They look like Hell, but no problems at all.

Greg Barlow
Former Science Editor for Rodale's Scuba Diving Magazine
 
I have worked and have friends at mares HQ. The rubber suppliers have seen quite a rotation between Estonia, czech republic and Bulgaria but I would say for better
the hardware such as regulators first stages have never moved production to my knowledge in years and the QC process if anything has improved
so I don't second the observation about mares falling parts deteriorating in quality what is true is that new products maybe more on the value for money but the top range as well as some classic stay the same
 
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