Magnolia Dive report, and a question

[jwinslow68]

I think the best thing to do is continue to be polite to the people there to keep up good diver-relations and maybe a trip to the Town Hall Assessors office might settle any questions as to who owns the land and check local laws just to make sure. On another note......I lost a lobster bag there on friday. If somebody happens upon it and is willing to mail it to me I would be most appreciative and willing to return any money spent for postage. I live in the Whitinsville and work in Westborough so postage shouldnt be a huge deal. Its a lime green Trident squeeze bag and my last name "Winslow" is written on it in marker.
Thanks
jwinslow68

 

[Chebby]

One more tip:

Don't stand in front of the windows when peeing. I was once approached by a granny (not at mognolia) that for some reason insisted that I was ruining her petunias. I politely told her she was tripping. First, I was 10 feet away from her garden and second, the only thing I might have hit were her daisies, and if she can't tell petunias from daisies, she has no business gardening anyway. But being a sensitive guy that I am, I now think she might have had a small point, regardless if I was on her property or not.

 

[ScubaSarus]

Hehehehe

You guys actually pee infront of people at dive sights and all they are concerned about is were you are peeing ?

Well thats a divespot that will be around for yeras. I have say thats quite amuzing but logistics are important.

 

[localdivah]

I've met and hung out with the couple that own the house. They are nice folks and essentially want to keep their quality of life manageable. I never got into whether the claim was valid or not, but took the opportunity to try to understand his experiences with divers.

I know there are different interpretations of the Mass property code. There are also some new “No Trespassing” signs at the path’s entrance. I’m not sure of the entire history, but it appears that they own the part of Magnolia Rocks to the left of the path, and the city owns the part of the rocks to the right (donated long ago to pay off a tax bill). They don’t mind divers per se, but they do mind the Coney Island effect that beach umbrellas, and of course the trash people leave behind have on the rocks. I guess a few large dive groups in the past have been disruptive to the neighborhood. My buddy and I shared a couple lobsters with them as well.


Bottom line:

- In the future they requested that we leave our dive gear to the right of the path, and of course clean up any mess.

- Pissing on someone's lawn is never appreciated -- save it to warm up your wetsuit

- Entering the water on the left side is fine, especially given that the easier entry point is there

- Just remember that there are neighbors around and this isn’t a secluded area.

PS, Lord 1234 -- good luck hunting -- you'll quickly find it gets addictive. Your buddy should know better though --all gauging needs to be done in the water...

 

[mello-yellow]

One more tip:

Don't stand in front of the windows when peeing. I was once approached by a granny (not at mognolia) that for some reason insisted that I was ruining her petunias. I politely told her she was tripping. First, I was 10 feet away from her garden and second, the only thing I might have hit were her daisies, and if she can't tell petunias from daisies, she has no business gardening anyway. But being a sensitive guy that I am, I now think she might have had a small point, regardless if I was on her property or not.

I REALLY hope you are joking.

They don’t mind divers per se, but they do mind the Coney Island effect that beach umbrellas,

What is Coney Island effect?

 

[ScubaNorth]

I am always polite to people I do not know, as a matter of course.

I can see that from your post, it was a bad post as I was actually replying to the original post but piggy backed on yours. Sorry didn't mean to make it sound like I thought you were not nice to the locals.

 

[ScubaNorth]

PS, Lord 1234 -- good luck hunting -- you'll quickly find it gets addictive. Your buddy should know better though --all gauging needs to be done in the water...

I didn't want to scold anyone but have to agree, I do double check on the beach actually triple check. I have never had to put one back after the extra check. Get your numbers and get going, I am on a roll lately and you don't want to be behind me in number of keepers. Also remember measure both sides as one may be a tad longer than the other and that would suck to get hit for an oversight.

 

[lord1234]

we gauged in water first....THEN once out of the water regauged...

 

[ClassAction]

Here we go again with the "...should know better" comments... Yes, we guaged in the water and out of the water to double check. Consider yourself lucky if your underwater measurements are always perfect (in low vis, current, surge, etc.). Mine always aren't and I typically wind up throwing one back. It's not a violation to come up with a short, just to keep him. The regs require you to immediately return the lobster to the waters from which you took him. As a matter of fact, the ones we put back were technically legal but just over the limit, so we decided to let them grow a bit. On Sunday, my buddy and I got about 18 keepers (outside the harbor). We remeasured on the boat and all were legal, but we only kept the 10 biggest ones, since we didn't need that many in order to keep our wives happy and avoid divorce. Why don't we all try not to read violations into everyone else's posts. Can't we all just get along? (ha).


I also did some more research -- it's my understanding that SOME beachfront owers own to the low tide line, while others might have deeded the property back to the city (as someone else mentioned above). The only way to check would be to do a title search. I don't think anyone wants to know bad enough to do a title search!

I actually had a short conversation with the land owner last week and I agree that he isn't all that bad. I politely asked him why he didn't want divers there. He said exactly what someone else (above) mentioned -- some people are setting up umbrellas, chairs, leaving garbage behind, etc. He said that most of the divers come in ones and twos and don't create a problem -- he doesn't hassle them. But he's worried about dive shop classes coming and taking over, which I can totally understand. I think that this guy isn't a problem as long as we're respectful and nice to him. I suggest minimizing any changing in front of his backyard (no one wants to see that!), not pissing on his property (or in plaing view of anyone for that matter), staying to the right on the rocks, keeping gear together, and maybe throwing him an occassional lobster... I do sympathize with him a little -- he paid $1 million + for that house and shouldn't have to *** my fat *ss squeezing into my wet suit every saturday!

 

[ScubaNorth]

Here we go again with the "...should know better" comments... Yes, we guaged in the water and out of the water to double check. Consider yourself lucky if your underwater measurements are always perfect (in low vis, current, surge, etc.). Mine always aren't and I typically wind up throwing one back. It's not a violation to come up with a short, just to keep him. The regs require you to immediately return the lobster to the waters from which you took him. As a matter of fact, the ones we put back were technically legal but just over the limit, so we decided to let them grow a bit. On Sunday, my buddy and I got about 18 keepers (outside the harbor). We remeasured on the boat and all were legal, but we only kept the 10 biggest ones, since we didn't need that many in order to keep our wives happy and avoid divorce. Why don't we all try not to read violations into everyone else's posts. Can't we all just get along? (ha).


I also did some more research -- it's my understanding that SOME beachfront owers own to the low tide line, while others might have deeded the property back to the city (as someone else mentioned above). The only way to check would be to do a title search. I don't think anyone wants to know bad enough to do a title search!

I actually had a short conversation with the land owner last week and I agree that he isn't all that bad. I politely asked him why he didn't want divers there. He said exactly what someone else (above) mentioned -- some people are setting up umbrellas, chairs, leaving garbage behind, etc. He said that most of the divers come in ones and twos and don't create a problem -- he doesn't hassle them. But he's worried about dive shop classes coming and taking over, which I can totally understand. I think that this guy isn't a problem as long as we're respectful and nice to him. I suggest minimizing any changing in front of his backyard (no one wants to see that!), not pissing on his property (or in plaing view of anyone for that matter), staying to the right on the rocks, keeping gear together, and maybe throwing him an occassional lobster... I do sympathize with him a little -- he paid $1 million + for that house and shouldn't have to *** my fat *ss squeezing into my wet suit every saturday!

Do as you like but exit the water with shorrts and meet the EP and you will have a new attitude and understanding of the reg. If anyone really cares if the dude owns the land give me the address (PM) and I'll have a title search run heck I'll even order a plot plan but I do need the address.