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And religions note the S!!
I think anytime somebody USES god to hurt other people is wrong
and evil!!!
I was trying to point out it has and does happen in the name of most all religions. And has nothing to do with religion but personal power fear poverty greed you name it!
Rick L
 
Waco was a screw up made by the Imperial Federal Government and it’s overzealous Justice Department. The people in Waco did nothing wrong that warranted the situation that they were placed in. The firearms they had were all legally obtained. The drug connection of a possible meth lab on the premises was false. Their was a meth lab there at one time, however, it was before the Branch Davidians bought the property. If the government wanted David Koresh so bad, they had ample opportunities to take him peacefully while he was in town. They chose not to do that. Instead they went with a full on assault and even used military equipment against civilians. This is not allowed. This was all simply a way to justify the over inflated budget of the ATF. I will stop now on that subject because I could go on forever with it.

Anyway, on to the subject at hand.

It seems that some people here are blowing statements way out of proportion. Their is in no way anything racist about what was said. The fact is that this was a terrorist attack. The fact is that it was carried out by a Muslim. The fact is that most terrorist who happen to be Muslim are in one way or another associated with Osama Bin Jack-Ass. Whether they belong to Al-Qaeda directly, or are a member of other terrorist organizations that work with it, such as Islamic Jihad, or they simply believe in his teachings, such as his Fatwah which makes statements like "The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies – civilians and military – is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it …". I would like you to prove me wrong on this. Find me one instance in the past 10 years, where an Islamic terrorist has not been in some way connected to Bin Jack-Ass. If I remember correctly, in the world today we have something like 140 armed confrontations going on. I believe it is something like 135 involve Muslim terrorists. I will have to check on those exact numbers when I get more time to research it.

Taking these facts how they are, it is a very realistic assumption, or question, to wonder if their are ties to Al-Qaeda. That can simply not be racist. There is no way anyone can make that connection. Sure, you might be able to call it bigoted, but even that is a long shot. Racism is the belief that one race is superior over another race. No one has said that their race was superior over Muslims, or that Muslims were inferior. You will not find that anywhere in any of these posts.

I will say this, I am a superior moral human being when compared to the likes of these people. No, not peace loving Muslims, but terrorists who happen to be Muslim. Why do I say that? Simple. I am superior because I live by a code of ethics and morals that say it is wrong to take an innocent human life. These cowards do not. To me, taking the moral high road is superior then killing someone simply because you disagree with them. Does that make me racist? No. Why? Because I do not feel that I am superior to a race. I feel I am superior to a culture. That culture being one that teaches that killing someone because they do not agree with your fanatical religious beliefs is what God wants you to do. So, seeing as everyone in the world today likes to come up with new "ism’s" and "ist’s", you can call me a culturalist.

If you look at the history of this man, you will find that he had expressed sympathy over the Sept 11th bombings. However, the sympathy was for the terrorists, not the innocent Americans, and many other nationalities, killed. He might not have a direct connection with Al-Qaeda, but it is not a far jump, hell it ain’t even a skip, to make the connection that he does in fact believe in the teachings of Bin Jack-Ass.

For someone to say that America or the military is Anti-Muslim simply makes me want to puke. Our soldiers have lost their lives protecting Muslims in places like Bosnia, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq. How are we repaid? We are repaid by wastes of human flesh killing innocent people by the thousands. Sickening.

Judith makes a statement regarding Charles Manson. Why do people not make statements such as All White Men are not bad? Well, if you remember the OKC bombing of the Federal building you will recall the entire Michigan Militia ordeal. Hundreds of thousands of Americans were in an uproar about militias. Many were trying to connect hunting clubs, who are mainly white, with militias and the McVeigh. Now we all know that every white man who owns a gun is not a militia member. Some of us even recognize the need for militias in our country and their purpose. However, we had one bad man who happened to be linked to a militia, and all of a sudden, all militia members were bad people. This simply is not true. If, God forbid, another white man bombed a building, many would try to make a militia connection of some sort. Heck, I might wonder the same thing, and I for one support most militias. Those being the ones that are not extremists factions. This is much like what we are facing today. However, this time it is with Muslims. Sure there are some idiots out there who think all Muslims are bad people, just like those who thought any firearm owner was a bad militia man. However, the logical thinking among us know this is not true.

The above paragraph might to some sound like a contradiction of what I was saying earlier. I assure you that it is not. Their are far too many connections between these parasites and Bin Jack-Ass. The most obvious is the conversion to the Muslim faith. The second would be the terrorist acts. The third would be the fact that they were Sept 11th hijacker sympathizers. The fourth being that they were reportedly overheard making statements of killing innocents. Now they are probably not Al-Qaeda, but you can make a good assumption that the believe in BJA’s Fatwah.

So now I ask, why is it so unreasonable to wonder if two terrorists, who are Muslim, could have some sort of connection with Al-Qaeda?
 
lal7176 once bubbled...
Extremely well said jamesk.

Thank you. I just can't beleive someone actually read all of that! :D
 
lal7176 once bubbled...
It appears aquamaniac is having a hard time understanding what is being said here.I dont exactly know what his problem is or where his lack of understanding of what being said that not all muslims are bad.For the majortiy of us when you hear somebody doing terrorist actions and being muslim,my first thought is al queda or their associates.That isnt always the case though.Time will tell on this sniper and his buddy.Like i said before im tired of beating my head against the the wall cause he doesnt seem to understand what is being said in the posts any how.

Also i welcome you to the states.My wife is originally from sydney and has been here for 3 years now.It seems you have a small dislike against americans by talking about waco and all americans being killlers and being prejudice against muslims which we have tried to tell you is not true.My question to you if america is so bad why are here.I dont mean this in a distasteful manner either but am curious after some of the comments you have made.

1. I think you need to calm down a little, and stop with the personal assaults, thats 3 times now.

2. You have totally missed my point, and I give up in that regard.

3. I understand ALL the posts, everyone except you has made made very good, unemotional and unbiased remarks. You and JamesK pretty much said exactly the same thing, but he did it in a more ethical way.

4. Thanks for the welcome to the States. Where do you get off thinking I have a dislike for Americans, Are you saying I dislike my own daughter? Please submit another thread pointing out EXACTLY where I made that comment.

5. Why am I here? Business and because I like it here.

6. Please also show me EXACTLY where you think I said I dont like it here.



I wish I were literate enough to say it the way Divemistress did.
 
JamesK once bubbled...


So now I ask, why is it so unreasonable to wonder if two terrorists, who are Muslim, could have some sort of connection with Al-Qaeda?

Thats the correct way to say it, as opposed to .


lal7176 once bubbled...
I also wonder if they are linked to al queda as he is muslim.
 
aqua,

get back in your pram and stop throwing your toys out!

when i said "you guys" i was refering to the US, but Oz has had a run in with them now as well, and that may have been due to the fact that the Oz government refused entry to the huge boat of Muslim refugees. - not saying this was right or wrong

This has nothing to do with Islam, as this preaches tolerance of other cultures and religions, but they have twisted Islam to what they want it to be, so i suppose you could say it has something to do with their Islam, and as the Western World has something against their Islam, other Muslims wrongly or rightly see it as an attack against Islam.

just because some one is a Muslim it doesn't make them a terrorist, but if they go around openly supporting terror attacks then they deserve what they get!!!
 
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