Looks Like the formus Might be making a Change LDS With BP/Wings in Central NJ?

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As far as I am concerned, OMS gear lacks some serious flaws in their ability to think-out their products, make it right the first time, and make it with quality materials, vs other manufacturers who do.

OMS is too 'gimmicky' with their products in their effort to make gear that 'looks cool' they forget what tech gear is supposed to be.

Example: Bungee wings, spreader plates, etc.
 
What kind of training are you looking for? If it is open water then I agree with Tavi that doing it in rental gear is best. If you are looking at advanced training I wouldn't do it with anyone who didn't know what a bp and wings are.
 
Java,

I think your concern about not having an LDS close by that sells this is valid.

You are going to want the wing/inflator inspected at least every 2 years.....

More importantly, it helps to have divers nearby who have experience with this gear. If you are relying 100% on the internet to learn how to set up and use the gear -- not a good thing IMHO. Is it impossible -- no. But it sure helps.

My $0.02.

-LD
 
Originally posted by SeaGypsy
What kind of training are you looking for? If it is open water then I agree with Tavi that doing it in rental gear is best. If you are looking at advanced training I wouldn't do it with anyone who didn't know what a bp and wings are.

I plan on a refresher / tuneup of my OW skills followed by an AOW that will allow me to build up my skills in a "supervised" manner.
I dont think that AOW is really advanced. (think they call it "adventures" these days.
 
Originally posted by large_diver
Java,

I think your concern about not having an LDS close by that sells this is valid.

You are going to want the wing/inflator inspected at least every 2 years.....
This is not a great problem. I can drive the 1 1/2 hours to a dealer who can service them.

More importantly, it helps to have divers nearby who have experience with this gear. If you are relying 100% on the internet to learn how to set up and use the gear -- not a good thing IMHO. Is it impossible -- no. But it sure helps.

My $0.02.
-LD
This is my main concern. Since the 3 local dealers I spoke to seem to have no idea what a BP/W is all about, I assume that there are no local divers using this equipment (or they are hiding well).
I will not rely on just the internet. The net opened my eyes. From here on I can use common sense to try to locate achieve what I want
 
You can always mail the wings insured to a Halcyon dive shop.
 
It's More than Who Will Service It.
It's also the person on the boat who will warn me "your harness is on wrong etc". That will not happen if I'm in an enviroment where people think my gear was brough in a time machine.
 
Originally posted by java
This is my main concern [not having local divers to learn from]. Since the 3 local dealers I spoke to seem to have no idea what a BP/W is all about, I assume that there are no local divers using this equipment (or they are hiding well).
I will not rely on just the internet. The net opened my eyes. From here on I can use common sense to try to locate achieve what I want
Let me lay your fears to rest. A BP and wings setup is easy to dive with. Remember that this is what technical divers use, and the hallmark of technical equipment is simple, easy and safe. They don't go out of their way to make things complex (well, most don't).

I got my BP and wings years ago in a complete vacuum, no one in Colorado that I knew of dove a BP. Except for a bit of confusion about how to thread webbing on the BP (nowadays the web has better information) I put the thing together, jumped in a pool and my trim, buoyancy control and ease of diving showed an immediate and effort-free improvement. A week later I was in Cozumel effortlessly hovering inches above a reefs without even having to think about it.

The hard part of DIR diving is the skills and mental discipline. The equipment is easier to “master” than a typical jacket style BC.

Go for it, you'll have zippo problem “learning” (too strong a word) how to use it. It'll be natural.

Roak
 
Did you try Dosils on 36 in middletown last time I went in there they were pretty knowledgeable, also if you feel like driving north alittle bit you have Ocean explorers in Menlo park and treasure cove in westfield. Also The Scuba Connection in hillsbourgh is not to far from Ocean ct and most of the staff there dives with a bp and harness. Hope this helps.
 

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