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Steer by wire is not an issue, instead it's a big step toward the safety of flights.
The issue is about the pilots not properly prepared to master the modern flight aids.
Most of the modern electronic aids can be bypassed.. if you know what's going on.
 
Dan_T:
Here we go again:

Ethiopian Airlines crash: Boeing 737 Max 8 grounded in Ethiopia and China, Indonesia conducts extra inspections

This time they did find both flight data & voice recorders
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Purely a PR ploy - in China's case attempt to get further discount.

Airlines can't afford to have Aircraft standing around, and unless Boeing or FAA etc issue a mandatory grounding they won't get compensated

Less than 24 hrs, no data lots of unfounded speculation with one apparent eye witness (often unreliable) claiming to have seen smoke from the rear.


I'd fly on one. I can't' get excited about this yet until more comes out
 
Television news today reported an eye witness as having seen the plane circling a number of times before crashing into the ground. Apparently, the witness(es) was up on a hill above the crash sight.
 
Boeing 737 black box found as planes grounded after Ethiopian Airlines crash

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...nd-boeing-ethiopian-air-crash-intl/index.html

“(CNN)Two flight data recorders from Ethiopian Airlines Flight ET302 have been found, as airlines around the world ground Boeing 737 MAX 8s like the one which crashed Sunday, killing all 157 people on board.

The plane's Digital Flight Data Recorder (DFDR) and Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) were recovered from the wreckage Monday, Ethiopian Airlines said in a statement. They will enable investigators and experts piece together the last moments of the flight, and should help explain why the new plane crashed.....”

“...The pilot, Yared Getachew, was a senior Ethiopian Airlines pilot who had flown more than 8,000 hours. He had an "excellent flying record," according to CEO Tewolde GebreMariam....”

Hopefully that would speed up the root cause analysis of the crash.
 
And on the other hand

In response, Southwest and Icelandair were among the airlines to back their choice of aircraft. Icelandair said the 737 Max 8 carries out around 1,000 trips a day worldwide. The airline has three of the aircraft and has never had an incident, it said.
 
Which airlines use the Boeing 737 Max 8?

Airlines that have grounded the 737 Max 8
On March 11 at 09:00, the Civil Aviation Administration China (CAAC) issued a notice requesting domestic airlines to suspend the commercial operation of the Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft before 18:00 on March 11, 2019 “in line with the management principle of zero tolerance for safety hazards and strict control of safety risks.Chinese-regulated airlines. These include:

Shenzhen Airlines (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in July 2018)

China Eastern Airlines (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in Dec 2017)

Air China (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in Nov 2017)

Okay Airways (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in June 2018)

Kunming Airlines

Also:

Ethiopian Airlines

Cayman Airways - The airline of the Cayman Islands grounded its Boeing 737 MAX aircraft effective from March 11, 2019, “until more information is received”.

Indonesian airlines: Garuda Indonesia (one) and Lion Air (10) Indonesia will temporarily ground Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft pending inspections by the air transport directorate.

Comair

Royal Air Maroc - Decided to ground their Boeing 737 MAX’s as of March 11.

Airlines continuing to operate the aircraft
Norwegian Air shuttle (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in June 2017) - "in close dialogue with Boeing"

Flydubai (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in July 2017) - "monitoring"

TUI Group (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in January 2018) - "close contact with manufacturer"

GOL (operates 7 x 737 Max 8 aircraft) - "reiterates confidence in the safety of its fleet"

Air Italy - "in constant dialogue with the authorities"

Icelandair (flies 3 x 737 Max 8 planes) - "we will... follow any developments closely"

Aerolineas Argentinas (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in Nov 2017) - "monitoring the information available closely"

S7 - "constantly keeping in touch with the manufacturer"

SilkAir - (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in Sept 2017) - "closely monitoring developments"

Southwest Airlines - "in contact with Boeing"

Fiji Airways - "training... meets highest safety standards"

WestJet - "monitoring the situation closely"

LOT Polish Airlines (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in November 2017) - "closely monitoring the situation"

American Airlines - "full confidence in the aircraft... will closely monitor the investigation"

Other airlines that use the 737 Max 8
SpiceJet (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in Oct 2018) - no immediate comment

JetAirways - no immediate comment

Corendon Airlines (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in May 2018)

Mauritania Airlines (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in Dec 2017)

Malindo Air (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in May 2017)

Sunwing Airlines (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in June 2018)

Aerolineas Argentinas (delivery of first 737 Max 8 in Nov 2017) - "monitoring the information available closely"

Aviation Capital Group

Aeromexico

Gol Airlines

Gecas Travel Services

Oman Air also uses the aircraft but their delivery date has not been confirmed by Boeing.

Edit: to add more comprehensive information
 
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