LDS Bashers

[Puffer Fish]

Carldarl - attempting to "punish" you is a great example of really, really stupid business practice. Your response was the correct one.

 

[Xanthro]

Carldarl, I have to agree that's an very stupid attitude on the part of the LDS.

I've run into this attitude outside of diving, my response is.

"So, because I didn't spend all my money here, you don't want me to spend any of my money here?"

 

[Web Monkey]

My LDS knows, we talked about it a couple weeks ago. He gives free air for life to people who buy a tank from him, and he showed me what the filters cost, the maintenance schedule and such. Based on what he showed me, it's not cheap. I'd say air fills are a loss leader for many dive shops to get you in the door to buy other goods.

I'll bet he still doesn't know the energy cost, which is significant.

Terry

 

[Web Monkey]

One of the very first and foremost requirements to be successful is the ability to alter or modify your business model based on the ever changing commercial atmosphere.

Actually, the first rule is to not off the customers.

Terry

 

[Rick Murchison]

If this is the trend then diving is a dying activity

I was in a major bookstore last night. As I always do, I perused the magazine rack for Scuba mags. There were three. Five years ago there were no less than eight. This is a direct reflection on how many advertising dollars being spent in the industry. It is an indirect indicator of troubles in the industry as a whole.
Rick

 

[Hoyden]

I was in a major bookstore last night. As I always do, I perused the magazine rack for Scuba mags. There were three. Five years ago there were no less than eight. This is a direct reflection on how many advertising dollars being spent in the industry. It is an indirect indicator of troubles in the industry as a whole.
Rick

As someone who used to work in magazine publishing, I'd say that the reduction in the number of scuba magazines has much more to do with the influence of the internet and the fact that specialty magazines tend to be published by enthusiasts as opposed to professional publishers than with the health of the scuba industry in general. It is a tough time for all specialty magazines.

Jackie

 

[Halthron]

I was in a major bookstore last night. As I always do, I perused the magazine rack for Scuba mags. There were three. Five years ago there were no less than eight. This is a direct reflection on how many advertising dollars being spent in the industry. It is an indirect indicator of troubles in the industry as a whole.
Rick

I'd say it's a reflection of advertising dollars spent in magazines, not necessarily advertising dollars spent as a whole. IMO, it's probably more a reflection of the growth of the Internet; people are able to get information in lots of places now so the importance of the diving magazines has diminished. Fewer subscribers/rack sales = less advertising and less money for the ads they do get.

Edit: I was a bit slow, I guess.

 

[Kim]

As someone who used to work in magazine publishing, I'd say that the reduction in the number of scuba magazines has much more to do with the influence of the internet........

Yes. I'd guess ScubaBoard has a lot to answer for!

 

[jsmharley]

Please explain said "VAST Difference", cause I must have missed that in you essey titled "Stupid Clueless Internet shoppers".

Based on the devistating facts in your FIRST post (welcome to SB, I think :06: ), I simply can NOT fathom how no less that FOURTEEN LDS's are thriving in the Denver Market?

My LDS sells online, so now I'm confused :11doh: Am I a BAD clueless idiot for using my LDS because they sell online, or am I a Smart Buyer cause they are my LDS even if they are not everyone's LDS who may use them and if people travel to Denver, then is that OK to use my LDS because there is no internet involved, or is that still cheating on their LDS by using my LDS? If I use MY LDS to make an online purchase am I Cheap?

Another thought is that if the LDS raises their prices 20% above MSRP, and then offers a 15% discount, are they worth supporting? IF the LDS charges $200 to train OW students, but only pays the instructor $25 are they savvy, or ripping off their employees?

Is the Internet good or EVIL (pronounced EEEVeil)? Maybe the government should get involved, that could fix everything!

So what will your next post be.. hmm, BP/W vs. BCD, maybe Splits vs. Paddle, or could it be the loveable Octo Inflator vs. Octo debate. One can only hold their breath with anticipation and wait calmly for the next inspiriing and original rant!
:bigun2:

ROFLMFAO You mean thats not the first time this has been posted by somebody?

 

[CBulla]

Its all part of the changing world. History has shown that with innovation comes change. Horse and carriges still exist today, but they aren't as efficient a mode of transport as a motorized vehicle if your traveling on a time schedule. Steamships replaced sailing ships. Pumps replaced a crank handle and bucket on wells...

Digitial is replacing paper, the internet is replacing magazines, and thousands of views and reviews are replacing the 'few' that were printed or published. E-tail is merging with retail. I, like so many other folks, do not like or have time to stop by a store or location with 'set' hours that are not condusive to what I need to dedicate to my own business in order to generate income. Sometimes I can plan in a stop by the store to take my tanks in and spend a few minutes, but its nothing like the time I want spend.