Is there a valid reason for a pony bottle

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I didn't read this entire thread..........but to answer the OP's question....... will say that Solo diving is at least one solid and valid reason for having a pony bottle along with a fully redundant gas delivery system.

Other valid reasons for having a pony bottle are not limited to but include:
  • Always right there and never leaves my side .
  • Always ready to splash when I'm ready.
  • Likes to dive wherever and whenever I like to dive.
  • Never panics.
  • Never has to pay for an extra spot on the boat.
  • Never drinks my beer.
And most importantly.........
  • Never, ever..... bitches or complains about anything....ever!
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I also didn't go through the entire thread, but I'm not sure I understand the resistance to carrying one at all. My wife and I each carry slung ponies anytime we go deeper than 20m and I can't think of a compelling argument against a redundant air supply. "Because you shouldn't need it" doesn't hold water for me, so to speak.
 
Don’t know if I’d trust more my wife than an insta buddy for air redundancy 😂
The insta-buddy isn't the beneficiary of your life insurance and doesn't have to listen to you snore. Just saying...
 
All the pony haters here. Regardless of who forgot to do what, who didn't do it right, or whose fault it is, I can guarantee you one thing.

A diver with no pony and an empty cylinder has a lower chance of survival than a diver with a 19 Cu Ft pony and an empty cylinder.

Most of you pulling all these ridiculous scenarios out your butts to try to hate on ponies.

My pony (I've done drills) gives me about 10 minutes of air if I have to ascend from 110 feet in an out-of-air scenario. That's 10 more minutes of air than you have. And it isn't always "idiot diver who didn't watch his gauge" causation. In one situation, my buddy inadvertently banged his (yoke) reg on the wreck in a penetration and the O-ring blew. He was out of gas in a few minutes. My situation several years ago, the O-ring on the 2nd stage swivel blew. On disassembly afterwards, I realized the allen bolt that joins the two sections of the swivel had became loose (vibration?) allowing the O-ring to extrude. After that I began carrying a small allen wrench in my toolgear to check it was tight before a dive. Another situation a chick who was my insta-buddy blew an O-ring (yoke reg) at 75 feet. Her gas supply was gone in a few minutes. If she had had that pony y'all dis so much, she'd had 10 minutes more of air and wouldn't have had to buddy breath under stress during an emergency ascent. She couldn't surfaced quickly and less stressful and more safely.

Using a pony bottle as a "dive extender" is wrong application of the tool. But it isn't the fault of the tool that the diver is using it for a purpose it wasn't intended for. My policy is if I have to switch to pony reg, the next step is "Go home now", not spear one more fish or take one more photo.
 
my 50 cents:

pony makes allways sence:
- any dives deeper than 100 fsw
- if the valve drill is not easy(!) and fast doable
- direct ascend not possible (boat traffic!)
- single tank solo dive deeper than 30 fsw

Count all your O-rings, hoses, valves, instruments and multiply with one fault per 100 dives. There is your risk probability for the pony need.
e.g. DIR single tank rig:
~20 O-rings
~6 Valves (regulators, inflators, tank)
~1 instrument (SPG)
~4 hoses
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31 failure points... making a risk factor of 31% as bad scenario. Of course proper mainteneance keeps the risk much (much!) more lower in reality. But the heck can be everywhere...
 

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