Is it safe???

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So with all of the headlines in the news paper I have to ask is it safe to go to baja? I was thinking specifically of Loreto. I am in California and Loreto looks like it is a nice warm dive site, while still being inexpensive to fly to. So is it safe to go to Loreto?
 
I haven't been down as often this year, but two of us, women, drove down by ourselves the week of Labor day.

I have friends that go down all the time. Don't go to the drug-dealing areas. Drive straight to the diving area. That's what we do.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/05/world/americas/05mexico.html?_r=1&ref=global-home

When the men were reported kidnapped by an armed commando on Sept. 30, the authorities were quick to argue that they must have had some links to drug trafficking. Mexico’s tourism minister, Gloria Guevara, argued that tourists usually traveled with their families.

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In the weeks that followed, their families struggled to explain that the men were the victims of a mistake. They presented documents showing that the repair shop paid taxes and social security for its employees.


I'm not suggesting that you can extrapolate from Acapulco to Baja, but I also don't think you can blithely assume that all this violence is going to deftly sidestep tourists.
 
This is my fear. I am aware, of course, that crime exist here in California as well and that I could be mugged getting on to the dive boat in Long Beach. However I will probally not be kidnapped or have my head cut off. On the other hand most folks make it fine in Loreto and the water is so tropical.
 
I go to Mexico (specifically Sonora) all the time. For diving, sightseeing or hiking. I camp in the backcountry by myself. No issues whatsoever. I have been on two road trips to Baja California, driving all the way down from Arizona. Most recently last winter. Again, no incidents. Sure, the crime is there. I later read in the newspaper that during the time I spent in La Paz, a major drug kingpin was arrested there after a major shootout with police. It's just that I'm not really worried about it. I look pretty white and have a German accent, so I am not particularly worried about becoming a victim of mistaken identity. I'm also dating a Mexican right now who tells me that yes, one should be careful and avoid the border towns, but by and large, she sees no problem with me going to Mexico often. Since she is from Hermosillo, I figure, she'd know if there was imminent danger. Of course, I would NOT go near Ciudad Juarez, or go shopping in downtown Nogales. I think that would be asking for it. But Baja is such a major tourist destination that I feel fairly safe there. I probably will avoid driving at night, though, something that I've always been warned about, but always did. I really do believe it is no interest of the drug cartels to drag tourists into this. After all, the whole eruption of violence happened because Calderon cracked down on the cartels, unlike his predecessor, Vicente Fox. If the druggies started targeting tourists, the government and police would crack down even harder on them. That is the rationale I follow. This Christmas/New Years, I'll be driving down Baja again. Actually, I'm planning on taking the ferry from Topolobampo, which requires me to drive through Sinaloa, one of the major hubs of violence. Friends warned me that I should DEFINITELY not drive there at night to avoid roadblocks by bandits, and I will heed that advice. But during the day it should be fine, I was told. Are you driving or flying? If you are flying I wouldn't worry about anything in the least.
 
I'm not suggesting that you can extrapolate from Acapulco to Baja, but I also don't think you can blithely assume that all this violence is going to deftly sidestep tourists.

Actually, I believe precisely that, namely that you CAN assume with reasonable confidence that all the violence is sidestepping tourists. OK, perhaps not ALL of it, but 99 % of it.
 
Actually, I believe precisely that, namely that you CAN assume with reasonable confidence that all the violence is sidestepping tourists. OK, perhaps not ALL of it, but 99 % of it.

so do i. i also hold the belief that significant drug money is invested and laundered in the tourist areas. that is another reason why none of the parties involved have any interest in taking the fight to the tourist areas.
 
Actually, I believe precisely that, namely that you CAN assume with reasonable confidence that all the violence is sidestepping tourists. OK, perhaps not ALL of it, but 99 % of it.

Unless your canadian :wink: seem to get 5 or ten of us a year.
 
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