Jim sold CCDS. So you won't find him there most days anyway. He's in Key Largo mate.
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moody s
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Thanks for the info, I was unaware. Out of curiosity who is the owner now?
victorzamora
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As an Edd student, let me be the first to clarify that we DO look that good. Perfect, flawless technique. Well, at least the half dozen or so that I've been diving with are.
While I'm not a GUE diver, or particularly a fan, I will say I've never dove with a poorly put-together GUE diver. One thing I'll say in disagreement with the Pro-GUE crowd in here is that GUE must be special because they've been making some of the biggest pushes in cave diving. One explanation there is that they've had exclusive access to the caves with the biggest available pushes for, what, better than a decade? I know Indian, Sally Ward (now), and Madison are all being pushed and surveyed by non-GUE divers. I believe that non-GUE divers are laying line at the end of GUE/WKPP lines already, despite having only had access for a couple of months now. I also know that GUE explorers have been diving non-GUE configurations to achieve some of the stuff they've been achieving. That's nothing against the agency, which I firmly believe to be good (if they'd set proper DIR-rules for sidemount, I'd convert tomorrow)....it's just facts. My point is that agency isn't the be-all-end-all, despite GUE having some agency-specific advantages.
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Jon Bernot, Gene Page, Tom McMillan and Marius Clore...according to the website. Having never been there, though, my impression is that Jon Bernot is the most involved/active of the owners.
PfcAJ
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Distinct lack of survey data from Sally and Indian...
Can you provide a link to the survey data collected for Sally Ward? It's state property, surely anything collected for the state should be public access. Is there a detailed map anywhere from WKPP for the state to look at by the public that owns the property?
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For the record, I'm not pro-GUE or anti-GUE. What I am is PRO-Great Diver. I don't care how you get there, but get there. If you suck, and can't fix it through any agencies' mentoring/training then quit and take up stamp collecting.
---------- Post added January 14th, 2015 at 09:43 AM ----------
For the record, I'm not pro-GUE or anti-GUE. What I am is PRO-Great Diver. I don't care how you get there, but get there. If you suck, and can't fix it through any agencies' mentoring/training then quit and take up stamp collecting.
LiteHedded
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the map is on the wakulla.kml file on the project baseline website
PfcAJ
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Also at Wkpp.org
LiteHedded
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also for the record, none of us are saying gue is the end all be all of scuba diving. but some of the comments here were so ridiculous someone had to say something...
I agree.... that's why I said something.
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GUE divers have helped with the Madison project, and I hope they continue to do so since they are a tremendous asset to any cave exploration. I am not really sure what point you are trying to make bringing it up in this context.
Is there some exploration that the traditional "DIR" backmount configuration isn't suited for? Sure. But I also know for a fact that one member of the dive team who did the last pre-flood exploration/survey dives at Madison, i.e. the "new end of the line" did the whole dive in a "DIR" backmount configuration.
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