i tried to fly out today and i ended up being bent

[GrumpyOldGuy]

Here is your flight

FlightAware > US Airways (US) #245 > 03-Sep-2011 > KFLL-KPHX Flight Tracker

That is slick - even the alt reported.

 

[Blastman4444]

That's the flight I couldn't figure out where it showed going back to the airport.

 

[MX727]

US Airways operates mostly Airbus (I think)

Glad you are getting better. And thanx for the additional info.



For you Don.
Check out some Regional airlines that fly into the subsidized airfields out west.
And you will even see single engines flying passangers.

Airlines that operate Twin Otters in the US

Air Illinois
Air Serv International
Air Wisconsin
Allegheny Commuter
Continental Express
Crown Airways
Golden West Airlines
Grand Canyon Airlines
NewAir
Ozark Airlines
Pilgrim Airlines
Rocky Mountain Airways
Scenic Airlines

Airlines that operate DC-6 in US

American Airlines
United Air Lines
Delta Air Lines
Braniff International Airways
National Airlines
Northern Air Cargo
Western Airlines
Pan American World Airways
Northwest Orient Airlines
Northeast Airlines
Eastern Air Lines
Pan American-Grace Airways
Alaska Airlines
Continental Airlines
Pacific Southwest Airlines
Reeve Aleutian Airways
Trans Caribbean Airways
Flying Tiger Line
Mackey Airlines
Everts Air Fuel
Everts Air Cargo
Zantop International Airlines

That has to be one of the worst cut and paste jobs from Wikipedia ever. You clearly missed the part were they said they included all airlines that ever operated those planes.

Do you really believe that American, United and Delta still operate the DC-6 on scheduled passenger service? Click on the links in those articles and you will find the real answers. Hint: Air Illinois ceased operations in 1983. You can look at the rest.

As an airline pilot, this thread has alternated between extremely painful to downright hilarious. What is clear, is that some of you know as much about airplanes as the general public knows about diving. :blinking:

 

[ktomlinson]

That has to be one of the worst cut and paste jobs from Wikipedia ever. You clearly missed the part were they said they included all airlines that ever operated those planes.

Do you really believe that American, United and Delta still operate the DC-6 on scheduled passenger service? Click on the links in those articles and you will find the real answers. Hint: Air Illinois ceased operations in 1983. You can look at the rest.

As an airline pilot, this thread has alternated between extremely painful to downright hilarious. What is clear, is that some of you know as much about airplanes as the general public knows about diving. :blinking:

Well fill us in man!

 

[Blastman4444]

And as you can see it did settle down for a bit at 5k ft:

FlightAware > Flight Track Log > AWE245 > 03-Sep-2011 > KFLL-KFLL

I see he reached almost 25k high they did take time to discuss to go back or not a doctor on board came back and told me they ask her if they should land or not. I wonder what would have happened if they didn't have a doctor they would have called one I guess and had me talk to them. I remember the O2 didn't really start working until he got down then it started to subside.

 

[DandyDon]

Planes carry Oxygen generators, not tanks, I think. I've wondered how much O2 one can really get from one?

 

[Blastman4444]

It was a small tank they laid it in my lap I told them to turn it up all the way as I sucked on it.

 

[DandyDon]

It was a small tank they laid it in my lap I told them to turn it up all the way as I sucked on it.

Oh really. Ok, I'm wrong. I have to wonder how much one of those could hold. I doubt there pressure is much.

 

[Blastman4444]

They might have o2 generators it had one of those stupid yellow cups on it I had to push it hard against my face to keep it sealed. It was small like one you see for propane torch but about twice as long.

 

[freewillie]

Sorry to get to the dance late, but thought I'd cut in anyways. I apologize for not reading all the of the post so far, but did want to make a few comments anyways.

What the OP posted is classic case of the 'bends' or decompression illness (DCI). Under DCI ther are two separate cases, Decompression Sickness (DCS) and Acute Gas Embolism (AGE). The difference is in where and how the bubbles form.

Just a quick physics discussion. What happens in DCI is nitrogen gas dissolves in the blood under pressure. When the diver returns to the surface, the air pressure at that point helps keep the gas dissolved in the blood. If the ambient air pressure drops, ie go to altitude, or if there is a significant amount they will come out at sea level. In any event, gas bubbles will form. Think of shaking a can of soda then opening up.

In DCS the bubbles form in the tissues involved. In AGE the bubbles form in the blood vessels themselves then cause problems when they get stuck in the artery. The artery and the location is where the symptoms will form. If they get stuck in your brain you can have a stroke. If the form in a limb you will get pain in your arm or leg.

Now, a patent foramen ovale (PFO) is simply a whole in the heart that allows blood on the right side that would normally go to the lungs to cross over into the left side of the heart to where it will embolize (get stuck somewhere) as blood is carried to the whole body - brain, limbs, skin, etc.

The PFO does not cause the bubbles to form, it simply allows the bubbles to go somewhere they would not have ordinarily been able to go. They should have been stuck in the blood vessels of the lung but instead went through a hole that normally is not present and went into other parts of the body. The most dangerous area is the brain as that can cause strokes.

The bubble don't form because of the PFO, the bubbles form from the nitrogen loading and subsequent decrease in atmospheric pressure.

kell490, hope you are recovering uneventfully.

fun and safe diving to all.