I know there are no stupid questions but.....

[fnfalman]

If a Dive Op ends up in court because a diver screwed up and someone's looking for a financial payoff to "ease their suffering", the more bullets in your legal arsenal, the better.

Here in the Northeast there's one Dive Boat captain who requires any divers doing a dive of greater than 100 feet to produce a logbook showing at least 5 dives to depths of 60 feet in the region in the past year.

It only takes one dive log request to make it worth it.

And there are several advanced scuba diving certifications that require you to produce proof of a certain number of dives in various conditions.

Eagle's Nest Boat Policies
2. For all dives over 100 feet in depth divers must produce a log book showing evidence of at least five (5) dives in the northeastern United States (or equivalent location) to a depth of at least 60 feet within the last 12 months. The only exception to this rule is a diver diving with an Instructor.

I can always show a "dive log" with any number of dives that I want to show and that would even have signatures of my "buddies" as "witnessing proof".:blinking::blinking:

If a charter were to want a log book showing a certain numbers of dives under certain conditions, I'd go elsewhere. Or if I were to really, really, really, super duper really want to go on that dive charter then I'm sure that a log book can be provided with the pertinent information filled out.


Somebody's dive log means nothing to me. It can be fabricated with ease.

MY dive log for MYSELF means something. It means that there are things I wanted to record for posterity. If that means I'm gonna log every time I take my scuba gear into my bathtub, then that's what I'm gonna log. Ain't nobody can prohibit me from writing anything into my dive log that I deem worthwhile to keep record of.

Or if I decide not to log any dive at all, then that's what I'm gonna do. Nobody is gonna come to my house and take my cert card away.

 

[Herk_Man]

What happen if I were to want to log my pool dive that's only 10-minutes and 1/5 of my air? Who's going to tell me that I can't do it?

Or what happen if I were to not to log anything at all? Who's going to make me log my dive?

Logging dives is a personal thing. there are no laws, rules or regulations that make you log or not log.

I think a congressional panel should be formed to create rules for, regulate, and enforce scuba logbook entries. Then all bodies of water, whether pool or other that is deeper than 4 feet and longer in length than 12 feet should have a scuba police person posted to check those logbook entries for accuracy and issue fines for non-compliance. Think of the jobs this will create! More guvment for me, yes sir!

 

[bane51031]

For PADI O/W the check out dives are to be looged and as far as not allowing you to swim unassited had nothing to do with the instructor questioning whether you knew your stuff but,was following the rules and covering his ass.You are not a certified diver till the paperwork is done and you have your temporary card in hand, had he allowed you two too swim unassisted and one of you died or were injured he would be liable believe it or not.

 

[fnfalman]

For PADI O/W the check out dives are to be looged and as far as not allowing you to swim unassited had nothing to do with the instructor questioning whether you knew your stuff but,was following the rules and covering his ass.You are not a certified diver till the paperwork is done and you have your temporary card in hand, had he allowed you two too swim unassisted and one of you died or were injured he would be liable believe it or not.

Exactly.

But once you're out of the class, you can do whatever you want to do, including being obtusely stupid...or conscientious about diving.

 

[idocsteve]

Or if I were to really, really, really, super duper really want to go on that dive charter then I'm sure that a log book can be provided with the pertinent information filled out.


Somebody's dive log means nothing to me. It can be fabricated with ease.

Not if the Dive Op has the means to date the ink used to fill out the logbook.

 

[dpaustex]

I'd say log the open water dives - at least until you're comfortable with your gear (one of the purposes of the dive log is to recall what gear works best in a given situation). They are also mementos of who/what/when/where.

Personally, I don't log mine much anymore, but sometimes do a journal when I am on a trip. But I dive a lot, and pretty much quit doing it around 500 dives.

But I also think it's good to do your pre-dive planning in writing, with the aid of a logbook. Helps remind you to do a buddy check, hand-signals, lost buddy procedures, etc. Book or not, those things should be done on every dive.

But this is a fun sport, and you should be having fun while diving. It's good to do a post-dive briefing with your buddy, and/or the group. Keeps the skills sharp. Above all, you're there to have fun and play like a fish.

 

[Tigerman]

If anything, keep track of hours you spend in the pool. But don't log them as dives.

Your instructor didn't MAKE you log your checkout dives?

That one kinda made me wonder too..
We had to log our OW dives for the OW course and IIRC we actually logged the pool dives on a "special page" as well because the taught skills needed to be signed by the instructor.

Pool dives after the OW course I wouldnt log though.
Normally I dont log open water dives thats shorter than 15-20 minutes either, but there are exceptions. If "things happen" and I have to cut a dive short or I decide to abort the dive for whatever reason it goes into the logbook just so I find out later what gear config and circumstances made me abort a dive there and Ill be a bit more prepared for the eventualities.

 

[Dirty-Dog]

I'm gonna log every time I take my scuba gear into my bathtub.

Do you do that often? Do you take a snorkel along for bathtub dives? Do you use a spare air or a pony bottle? What is the NDL for your tub? How deep are your safety stops? Does PADI offer a bathtub diver cert?

 

[JP11283]

Do you use a spare air or a pony bottle?

I won't do any tub dive without at least double 100s.

 

[fnfalman]

Not if the Dive Op has the means to date the ink used to fill out the logbook.

Well, if the dive charter were going to do a CSI on my ass, then I'm screwed. It's time to go to another dive charter.