How many log dives is the Rescue Diver open water portion?

[Hostage]

After an exausting and enjoying experience of doing the open water portion of rescue, I am at a loss of how or if I should log my dives. We were in 6ft waves in Lake Ontario this last weekend 60* water and 50* air tempatures. I had to pull an "unresponsive" diver that was twice my weight all by myself in strong surf. One guy even lost his gear when he took it off to assist someone, he must of thought someone was holding onto it while he was assisting the other diver and forgot to put air into it as well. It was a great course and compared to my other specailties and OW and AOW, I would like to know if I should log my dives. We were doing rescue stuff for around 4 hours, though very little under water. It was the most challanging thing I have yet to do in diving.

In retro spec, I decided if I had to tow someone (unresponsive) like that in those conditions, I would swim out attach a real, swim back and then pull him in. He would have been DoA the way I did it. I kept looking up and seeing a fisherman on this pier seemed not to move at all. I consider myself to be in good shape and even the guy who just did an iron man was exausted. I we ended up calling it before I could get him to shore, since he got sea sick. We redid it on the otherside of the pier where it blocked a lot of the weather and it was a lot easier.

-Hostage

 

[victorzamora]

Most of the work I did was on the surface plus one true dive. I just logged one. However, it's all personal preference. Do you log bounces? I had a dive in very poor vis and high current that required me to surface like 6 times to get my bearings....but in my book that was just one dive. Now, please don't lecture me on how bad bouncing is....I know.

 

[Hostage]

We didn't go really deep at all. I think it might be ~3 dives of varying length.
1) Search and recovery
2) Long exausting rescue in big surf
3) search and unrecovery of someone lost bc, only had fins, goggles, and snorkle
4)Bring Diver to shore and do the whole CPRT on a dummy thing.

I wanted to be creative on part of it and just tell my buddy to go knock on the Coast Guard and/or Sheriff's door that is on either side of the boat ramp.

 

[Hawkwood]

What was the certifying agency?

 

[nimoh]

I would log the dives, and in it, I would describe the stuff that happened on the surface.

There is no rule on what you can and can't log, it is your log book and write what you like.

 

[scubadada]

I did not log my PADI Rescue class as dives but recorded them in my log book with a description of what I did. These all occurred between dives 116 and 117 on Grand Cayman in March, 2005. I'm glad I have the record.

 

[DevonDiver]

What can be logged as a dive? (Quoted from the PADI Instructor Manual, General Standards and Procedures) Minimum depth is 5 metres/15 feet. During open water dives, have divers spend the majority of time at 5 metres/15 feet or greater, and breathe at least 1400 litres or 50 cubic feet of compressed gas or remains submerged for at least 20 minutes.

This seems to indicate that Rescue Diver Course scenario/practice dives could rarely be logged as dives. However, the following guidelines were always given in the instructor manual:

For the purposes of meeting logged dive prerequisites in future PADI programs, divers may log each of the four open water rescue scenarios as a dive. These dives may be applied toward the minimum logged dive requirements for PADI Divemaster and Instructor certifications.

There is no specific guidelines to that effect in the most recent 2011/12 versions of the PADI Instructor Manual, although I believe the advice given in earlier versions remains extant unless specifically cancelled.

 

[TMHeimer]

I wasn't thinking about how I'd log it until we finished. I spent the vast majority of the time on the surface, some on shore and a bit on the bottom in 20fsw. I logged the whole day as one dive just for the heck of it. I wasn't aware PADI required 4 OW dives during Rescue course. I thought it was 4 Scenarios. If a dive is considered 15' for 15 minutes, what are you doing down there all that time for 4 dives? You find the unconscious diver and bring him up, tow him in, etc. If he's down there 15 minutes he's dead. I guess one dive could be an entanglement scenario.

 

[Hawkwood]

Note that DD quoted the 2004 IM which outlined how to log the scenarios. When I did my Rescue (2008?) that is how we logged them.

As you can see if you check your 2012 IM, there are currently only the 2 Open Water Rescue Scenarios.

 

[Hostage]

I did it w/ PADI

What can be logged as a dive? (Quoted from the PADI Instructor Manual, General Standards and Procedures) Minimum depth is 5 metres/15 feet. During open water dives, have divers spend the majority of time at 5 metres/15 feet or greater, and breathe at least 1400 litres or 50 cubic feet of compressed gas or remains submerged for at least 20 minutes.

This seems to indicate that Rescue Diver Course scenario/practice dives could rarely be logged as dives. However, the following guidelines were always given in the instructor manual:



There is no specific guidelines to that effect in the most recent 2011/12 versions of the PADI Instructor Manual, although I believe the advice given in earlier versions remains extant unless specifically cancelled.

Thanks for the input, I'll go with the standard, I guess.