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[shark.byte.usa]

Am I missing something I thought the first video was of a male diver and second video was of Barbara Dilinger (that was creepy), seperate incidents, and did I not read someplace that the video was on a helmet cam or something (hands free), that's why it wasn't turned off or dropped, etc. I think the bounce dive to 300' with either severe narcosis or a medical emergency is the most plausible explanation, of course this could have and may have been determined by an autopsy could it not. We just don't know who of the 100 deaths in the area this is.

 

[Diving Doc]

Holy shhhhoogah honey iced tea! The video and analysis of this accident gave me nightmares! A lot of questions unanswered, but helpful to watch. It is from the year 2000, but I believe the lessons apply just the same today as they did then.

This Video posted in YouTube can be found here.

More lessons here than you can shake a stick at...scary stuff

 

[realdiver7]

I have serious suspicions about some of these videos. Look at the one called Red Bikini Diver. The drowning looks very real on the video, but why didn't the videographer(s) cut her free from the line she was tangled in? Why did they just watch her die and continue filming?

From one camera angle, you could see her approaching from a distance towards the line, which looked new in my opinion. Then from another camera angle facing her, she swims backwards into the line, gets tangled, and drowns for what seems to be an agonizingly long time.

I doubt she was even a diver, based on how severely overweighted she was, how she "bicycled" in the water in an upright position, the way she used her arms for propulsion, the oversized wing she was using, and the way some of her gear hung loose. The whole rig looked a bit large for her.

I believe there's some acting going on, but it's hard to separate fact from fiction, and speculation from reality in this modern age of computer technology. There is probably some validity to some of the videos, but which ones? The real ones serve to remind us of some very hard lessons in life (and in death).

 

[mislav]

Am I missing something I thought the first video was of a male diver and second video was of Barbara Dilinger (that was creepy), seperate incidents, and did I not read someplace that the video was on a helmet cam or something (hands free), that's why it wasn't turned off or dropped, etc. I think the bounce dive to 300' with either severe narcosis or a medical emergency is the most plausible explanation, of course this could have and may have been determined by an autopsy could it not. We just don't know who of the 100 deaths in the area this is.

Yes, you're right. The first video is a self-filmed death of Yuri Lipski. The second video is the body of Barbara Dillinger. Two separate incidents. Apologies if my previous post wasn't clear enough.

In that first vid, I don't believe the other divers were even his dive buddies. It's a very busy dive site, and where he went he most likely had lots of snorkelers behind him, and scuba divers and freedivers to his left. He was diving alone - hence the camera on his helmet and not in the hands of his buddy.

Barbara's death wasn't filmed. You can see her plaque at the Blue Hole here. Before anyone asks, the girl next to her plaque isn't Barbara, it's my girlfriend - the same one as in my avatar on the left. It was the first pic of that plaque at hand, without me digging deep into my backup discs.

Here's a third video. I'd say it's from the same show. It's a follow up on an Israeli search for missing divers in that area. I don't understand the word of it, though. I can only say three words in hebrew: krav, maga and shalom, so I have no idea what they're saying.

Anyway, you'll notice at the beginning of the third video many pieces of diving equipment found at various depths just outside of the Blue Hole. There are even some bits that looked bitten. I believe it's a piece of evidence that sparked the theory of death by shark attack for a group of two divers last seen trying to pass through the arch at the Blue Hole.

@realdiver7: no conspiracies, the videos are unfortunately real, except for the "specialist analysis" which should be completely disregarded.

 

[Vayu]

I cannot verify the authenticity of the videos however I will say that a 300' dive on air is not only within the realm of severe narcosis but also well within the realm of oxygen toxicity for an air mix. Someone at that depth could really take a hit to the central nervous system and thusly flail about unable to help oneself.


Tragedy either way.

 

[JahJahwarrior]

Wait a minute....

1- the noises from the reg. One guy says "not "help," noises." Another guy says "defeinitely "help," specialists say so too. I've NEVER gotten anyone to hear me say something like that underwater...even talkign through a reg, it doesn't sound like that. And why so high pitched and quick and short? Is he breathing trimix? It sounds ike my buddies reg almost, except his does it all the time and is a little longer, this sounds like a very short thing, his reg makes that noise all the time every inhale.

2- "particle speed shows he is descending very fast" Couldn't it also be a current? And I think at one point they are talking about how fast he is going down, but it ooks like he's on the bottom.

3- if that's a head cam...his head is hitting the bottom.

4- why is he walking on the bottom?

5- the guy with the beard reminds me of Chuck Norris

6- "these are pieces of him flying, his fins." ?? I've never had pieces of me fly away.

7- at 4:52 they say "no breathing" but the video runs until 5:55. Who here can hump the mud at 91 meters for a full minute without breathing/breathing water?

 

[BRANDY]

If info is correct,this is obviously a bounce,an instructor that obviously got narcd going for record. Without any other info to go on he did look at cp on bottom ,then freaked out.

 

[muddiver]

The "Help" sound everyone says they hear is very similar to the sound that regulator at a deep depth will make when it is being over breathed. Been there, done that, made it back. Since the diver is named Yuri, I doubt that help would be in English. More likely he was Russian.

I speculate that he either was convulsing from oxygen toxicity or he couldn't get to his mix gas cylinder to switch at depth. The group in the film stated he was at 91.3 meters, to me that is about 300 feet. The partial pressure of oxygen at 300 feet sea water is beyond the maximum safe limit of 1.6 ATM. He probable convulsed and drowned.

 

[MarkUK]

For all you guys who haven't dived Dahab or don't know too much about the underwater topography of The Blue Hole, check out this website:

www.blueholeproject.com/

Mark

 

[fabasard]

....think about ALL the drivers that cross the median every year on the freeway from massive MI's or strokes......those same people, if diving are going to "look like this".

Catastrophic death from a medical cause would mimic "entanglement" on the footage.
No control over arms and legs, etc. Not able to plan or execute a plan....

I am curious about how the camera was retrieved and the body left....the logistics of that. That tank will be surfacing any day, looks like.

I will freely admit I know about "Squat" when it come to medical knowledge, so I pose this question....I have heard that a MI could paralyze the left side of ones body, FIRST, is this true and if so, why do we not move our inflators to the right side of our bodies? Also, in a 'bounce" dive would it not make sense to have a pressure release system so that when you hit "depth" you automatically released "some" weight to begin your ascent? I am thinking along the lines of a mechanical device with the weights attached to a cord and when 300' is achieved it dumps those weights and the body, whatever condition its in, begins to return to the surface. Obviously you would not ditch all your weights or you rocket, but some to make you posatively bouyant again. Also, too many people have been lost In Blue Hole, why not have a line to the bottom and when people do bounce dives, have them attach to the line, so that if there is a problem, they pring the line up, and whoever is attached to it. Seems that common sense should be more common. Condolences to the family.