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Holy Hose Routing...... Can Someone Help Me

Discussion in 'Sidemount Diving' started by TigerDiver8, Dec 29, 2015.

  1. DevonDiver

    DevonDiver N/A

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    My apologies... as viewed, not worn. I wasn't clear.

    ---------- Post added January 1st, 2016 at 05:56 AM ----------

    If I'm picturing this right... It's not a break/cut-away?

    Surprising...

    ---------- Post added January 1st, 2016 at 06:06 AM ----------


    Amended.... was in 'instructor mode' describing as seen, not worn. Apologies for lack of clarity


     
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  2. DevonDiver

    DevonDiver N/A

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  3. WarrenZ

    WarrenZ Solo Diver

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    I saw I cool idea the boltsnap on the long hose is actually attached with bungie loop (Im using the diverite bungie keepers) around the mouthpiece easy pull off if needed and can be reatached if needed later.
     
  4. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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  5. DevonDiver

    DevonDiver N/A

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    Isn't that gonna leave the bolt-snap dangling down your chin? Slightly annoying perhaps?

    Either way, the bolt-snap needs to be on a break-away attachment to the long-hose. There's always a risk that the bolt-snap could jam when attached to the D-ring; leaving it unavailable for immediate donation, unless it's break-away. Cut-away (i.e. cave knot) is too slow for gas donation purposes.... and this is a critical difference between backmount (where the long-hose isn't routinely clipped off) and sidemount.

    My short-hose is also available for donation if required. I put it on a longer hose (32-36") into the turret of the 1st stage. During the dive the turret routes it under my armpit, then up and around my neck. That takes out the slack. It's secured in a rubber necklace....easier to detach than a bungee one (I hated these for backmount, but works great for sidemount if you get the right size.. i.e. short). To donate; pull the reg out of the bungee, swivel the turret forwards... you then have sufficient for an open-water ascent. As an instructor, this gives me options, but I've encountered no down-sides to it. It's much better with a rubber hose, as they mold to shape, whereas nylon never do...

    ---------- Post added January 1st, 2016 at 07:02 AM ----------

    LPI routes from the 5th/end port on the left (as worn) cylinder. Long hose is retained in bungees on the right (as worn) cylinder.

    The last picture shows 2 sets of sidemount, plus 2 deco tanks (L-R: Deco, Left, Right, Left, Right, Deco)
     
  6. tursiops

    tursiops Marine Scientist and Master Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Thanks. That's the way I wear mine, except I use a left-feed 2nd stage (in a necklace) on the left side, no hoses behind my neck. 90-deg swivels on both 2nd stages.
     
  7. DevonDiver

    DevonDiver N/A

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    For me... there's issues with overhead and tech/deco protocols. Routing around the neck (hog looping) can prevent confusion when you have multiple stage/deco cylinders beyond just the 2 primaries. That's how I teach also, as students may progress into tech/overhead so I provide a method that grows with them; and doesn't abandon them if/when they get into X, Y or Z type of diving at a later stage.

    I use 70-degree swivels on both regulators. Again, I never favored these with backmount; unnecessary and failure points, but they really do allow very snug hose routing with sidemount. Don't know why I feel it makes a significant difference, but it does (to me). I swap out the swivels routinely, as they aren't particularly long-lasting.
     
  8. Sidemount_Stu

    Sidemount_Stu Nassau Grouper

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    This is how I configure my long hose reg, works really well. See How-to Secure a sidemount 2nd stage breakaway clip | Divebritain Portal for a guide to set it up. It's very simple yet very effective and allows for running OOG drills with your long hose reg clipped off and easily re-stowing after the drill, unlike the more standard boltsnap and O ring idea that requires a replacement every time!
     
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  9. karstdvr

    karstdvr Solo Diver

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    That problem can happen with any hose not stowed well,but I have used two 5' hoses without a problem.
     
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  10. johnnywulff

    johnnywulff Solo Diver

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    My configuration is the same way, both hoses are long 7' retained on the cylinders, with 70 degree swivel routed around the neck and 2nd stage right post, left side in a necklace, right is retained
    by bungie loop attached at the harness, both are easy donation and no issues with multiple deco stages
     

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