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Holy Hose Routing...... Can Someone Help Me

Discussion in 'Sidemount Diving' started by TigerDiver8, Dec 29, 2015.

  1. Sidemount_Stu

    Sidemount_Stu Nassau Grouper

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    Out of interest, what are your reasons for going the opposite of most agency/instructor teachings with your long and short reg hoses?

    Not trolling, genuinely interested in hearing thinking behind a different option.
     
  2. a878bob

    a878bob Manta Ray

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    Most of my 2nd stages are reversible, so I can't see that being a reason.

    Because most instructors/agencies teach it that way, that's not a reason.

    It still duplicates the muscle memory / consistency of donating my long house.

    The long hose does not cross my chest, it stays tucked in neatly on the left, those seem like good reasons.
     
  3. rongoodman

    rongoodman ScubaBoard Supporter ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I remember seeing of video of Brian Kakuk demonstrating a similar arrangement, but I don't know why he chose it.
     
  4. shoredivr

    shoredivr Solo Diver

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    Five foot hose on each side.
    Left tank second stage is reversed, so hose leaves the second stage from the left, hose runs back down the tank, and up to first stage, bungees hold hose to tank. Second stage clips off on left chest d ring.

    Right side is the same, only a right hand regulator and 5 ft hose goes down and up tank to first stage and held to tank by bungees, clipped off to right side chest d ring.

    The hoses stay nice and out of the way. I saw Jill Heinrith set up her tanks this way and I tried it all this year. Works well.

    Nothing goes around my neck except if I'm doing a deco dive. Then I take the left hand deco tank reg and loop it around my neck when I am deploying it. Clearly it is positioned unlike any of the other hoses, too, helping to identify it as 50% or whatever.

    The photo is from earlier in the year when I had 5' on the left tank and a 7' on the right, while I was fiddling with hose lengths. The leg hand reg is not tucked down the tank as far as I like it now when diving, so the second stage is flopping over, but you get the idea.

    Really like nothing around my neck BTW, each hose sits cleanly on the tank. Just slide it back down the tank after clipping it off when switching regs. On the side you're switching to, just pull a few inches of hose up to get enough slack to move your head from side to side without pulling on the reg while it's in your mouth.

    And it doesn't matter which hose an OOA diver gets, either. Five feet is five feet (I keep tanks within 1000 psi of each other.)

    I am newly in love with this variation. Let's see what morphs up over 2016 lol.
     
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  5. shoredivr

    shoredivr Solo Diver

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    That photo is taken on Wayne Green's boat in the St Lawrence River, getting ready for a dive on the Roy A. Jodrey.
     
  6. Sidemount_Stu

    Sidemount_Stu Nassau Grouper

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    I quite fancy trying 2 x 5ft hoses actually
     
  7. Dhboner

    Dhboner DIR Practitioner

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    The only argument I have heard against "2 five foot hoses" is that without a hog loop or bungee the regulator can get yanked out of your mouth in a wreck or cave....discuss :)
     
  8. Sidemount_Stu

    Sidemount_Stu Nassau Grouper

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    I find myself defending the standard long hose right, short hose left configuration to my twin backmount dive buddies all the time because of the whole primary donate argument they always come out with.... Like the idea of 2x 5ft hoses as it takes this argument away entirely... And I mainly do open water diving, wrecks and stuff but not usually tight restrictions that I think would be a concern.... Could be worth a try... Just need to get some 5ft hoses... Lol
     
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  9. Doby45

    Doby45 Do I have something in my teeth?

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    This guy is a stud and the Hog D1 reg you have can have a 5th LP port on the bottom for $40 with the plug.

    [video=youtube;6n5RMSLdwI8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n5RMSLdwI8[/video]

    [video=youtube;aVVUWTX3AKw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVVUWTX3AKw[/video]
     
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  10. shoredivr

    shoredivr Solo Diver

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    DHBoner, Jill Heinerth's configuration had the hose go though the loop of a large bolt snap (means removing the second stage, thread the hose through, reattach the second stage. Hose now runs brought the closed ring of the boltsnap). Clip off the bolt snap to the same side chest d ring. The 5 ft hose runs down and back up the tank under tank bungees. Do the same for the other side.

    The bolt snap can stay clipped off to the d ring. The hose can slide through the ring of the bolt snap and you pull the reg up to your mouth. The reg can't be pulled lower than the d ring clip. I found if I did this the hose sometimes didn't slide nicely back to stow it, there was a slight torque to the regulator, and the metal to metal bothered me conceptually too. Alternately you could unclip the second stage, but the bolt snap slid down the hose sometimes. In this configuration you can't cut the bolt snap free should the need arise.

    So I went back to bolt snaps tied off to the hoses just before the regs. I run the hoses between the tanks and my body, so they are less available for snagging. The other second stage is just sitting at my shoulder d ring should I need it.

    ---------- Post added December 31st, 2015 at 04:04 PM ----------

    That's pretty good too.
     
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