The TDL chart specs for Fabers are about right for fresh water, while the BS specs are accurate for salt water. I'm currently diving double LP108s with a CLX450 DS in fresh water with AL40/80 stages - using 2-3lbs of tail weight - no other lead required. Good tanks - but the paint does get scratched up pretty good moving through restrictions. I have also dove Faber LP85s and LP95s - all are great tanks with great buoyancy chars for fresh water.