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Linda, my post wasn't aimed at you, it was in response to people trying to scare the living daylights out of ScubaMickey by warning about the potential for carjackings. This is how rumors and urban legends start.

Yes, that potential exists...EVERYWHERE ON PLANET EARTH...but we are not and have not had problems on the Turnpike and I just wanted to make that clear. Mickey, I'm not saying you WON'T get carjacked...just that you will be the first if it happens.

Stay out of the bad neighborhoods and keep your doors locked at all times. Keeping your valuables out of sight is just plain common sense no matter WHERE you are. When you drive in Florida, you have much more to fear from the drunk drivers, believe me.
 
Actually, this was a reference to the guy who rented a car and had a large amount of cash with him. He was stopped by the cops, and his money was confiscated, despite the fact he had committed no crime.

scubamickey:
Are car jackings a problem on the Florida Turnpike :D.

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/12/1296.asp

Federal Appeals Court: Driving With Money is a Crime
Eighth Circuit Appeals Court ruling says police may seize cash from motorists even in the absence of any evidence that a crime has been committed.

A federal appeals court ruled yesterday that if a motorist is carrying large sums of money, it is automatically subject to confiscation. In the case entitled, "United States of America v. $124,700 in U.S. Currency," the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit took that amount of cash away from Emiliano Gomez Gonzolez, a man with a "lack of significant criminal history" neither accused nor convicted of any crime.

On May 28, 2003, a Nebraska state trooper signaled Gonzolez to pull over his rented Ford Taurus on Interstate 80. The trooper intended to issue a speeding ticket, but noticed the Gonzolez's name was not on the rental contract. The trooper then proceeded to question Gonzolez -- who did not speak English well -- and search the car. The trooper found a cooler containing $124,700 in cash, which he confiscated. A trained drug sniffing dog barked at the rental car and the cash. For the police, this was all the evidence needed to establish a drug crime that allows the force to keep the seized money.

Associates of Gonzolez testified in court that they had pooled their life savings to purchase a refrigerated truck to start a produce business. Gonzolez flew on a one-way ticket to Chicago to buy a truck, but it had sold by the time he had arrived. Without a credit card of his own, he had a third-party rent one for him. Gonzolez hid the money in a cooler to keep it from being noticed and stolen. He was scared when the troopers began questioning him about it. There was no evidence disputing Gonzolez's story.

Yesterday the Eighth Circuit summarily dismissed Gonzolez's story. It overturned a lower court ruling that had found no evidence of drug activity, stating, "We respectfully disagree and reach a different conclusion... Possession of a large sum of cash is 'strong evidence' of a connection to drug activity."

Judge Donald Lay found the majority's reasoning faulty and issued a strong dissent.

"Notwithstanding the fact that claimants seemingly suspicious activities were reasoned away with plausible, and thus presumptively trustworthy, explanations which the government failed to contradict or rebut, I note that no drugs, drug paraphernalia, or drug records were recovered in connection with the seized money," Judge Lay wrote. "There is no evidence claimants were ever convicted of any drug-related crime, nor is there any indication the manner in which the currency was bundled was indicative of
drug use or distribution."

"Finally, the mere fact that the canine alerted officers to the presence of drug residue in a rental car, no doubt driven by dozens, perhaps scores, of patrons during the course of a given year, coupled with the fact that the alert came from the same location where the currency was discovered, does little to connect the money to a controlled substance offense," Judge Lay Concluded.
 
Reefguy, thanks for clearing that up!

Funny how everyone ASSumed that it was a carjacking when you made your original post.

That story is out of Nebraska. Do you have any references to that occurring in Florida?
 
Tom Smedley:
Why are you going to Ft Walton to dive the Oriskany when the Oriskany is in Pensacola??

Visiting family in Ft. Walton Beach area. I may or may not fly out of there. It's going to depend on the schedule. That's not the issue, though.
 
ReefGuy:
Actually, this was a reference to the guy who rented a car and had a large amount of cash with him. He was stopped by the cops, and his money was confiscated, despite the fact he had committed no crime.


http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/12/1296.asp

Ok, that's downright scary. Our founding fathers are surely rolling over in their graves over this. Whatever happened to presumed innocent until proven guilty? I wonder if this guy had been a middle-aged, English speaking man in a business suit if they would have taken his money?
 
Oh wow..I didn't think people were going to actually believe that cannibals were carjacking people along the Turnpike. I made it up - the Turnpike is very safe, and people freely drive carfulls of even more cash than that drug mule in Nebraska referenced above did with no trouble at all.
In fact, your biggest hassle will be dealing with MIA and the area around that Godforsaken airport. Once you find the highway and you don't get lost in the surrounding neighborhoods full of Santerias who still practice ritual sacrifice (albeit mostly with animals these days), you'll be fine.
If you're carrying too much cash up to Fort Walton Beach and your rear end is sagging, exit on I-95 just over the Palm Beach county north of Hillsboro at exit 44 and I can arrange for some gypsies to remove any curses weighing down your money.
 
No, but it was upheld by a federal appeals court...

DebbyDiver:
Reefguy, thanks for clearing that up!

Funny how everyone ASSumed that it was a carjacking when you made your original post.

That story is out of Nebraska. Do you have any references to that occurring in Florida?
 
Methinks we got ScubaMickey all alarmed for naught. The chances of what happened in Nebraska happening to him are less than the chances of winning the lotto AND getting struck by lightning in the same day.
 
DebbyDiver:
Methinks we got ScubaMickey all alarmed for naught. The chances of what happened in Nebraska happening to him are less than the chances of winning the lotto AND getting struck by lightning in the same day.
I'm a she. I have got to change my screen name!

I'm also not the least bit alarmed. I've been to Florida several times and I know how easy going the state is. Plus I grew up in the NYC area. Nothing alarms me.

Besides, I was the first person to bring up the word "car jackings". It was a joke in response to the comment about not carrying money in the car (which was in itself a joke about the incident in Nebraska). Talk about things taken out of context :)
 
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