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Start exercising. Not sure you even needed to ask this question.
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Start exercising. Not sure you even needed to ask this question.
wstorms
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Don't see it as a closed door, but more like a speed bump on the road. The main goal is to slow you down a bit and make you reevaluate what you are doing, not to stop you completely.
That does include discussing what is possible (and wise) for you to do, with different specialists and opinions. Different points of view are valuable, because they can give you more insight in how to manage / mitigate the underlying issues as much as possible.
Now the tricky bit, if you search long enough you will find a doctor who just "sells" you a signature. Getting the form signed is not much of an issue, but if you would do that, are you being true to yourself and your loved ones? Only you can be the judge of that, so make sure to have an informed opinion and consider if you should do a certain dive (on a certain moment).
I was out of the water due to type 2 myself. I was taking 4 shots of insulin a day and couldn't exercise.
Fast forward I'm now strictly diet controlled i can dive again. Even without exercising I did that. I can exercise now and my endocrine is happy with me diving, views it as more excercise.
Having a mom who is a dietitian helps a bit.
Fast forward I'm now strictly diet controlled i can dive again. Even without exercising I did that. I can exercise now and my endocrine is happy with me diving, views it as more excercise.
Having a mom who is a dietitian helps a bit.
I've been an insulin dependent diabetic for 60 years (I'm now 63). Started diving back in 1988, did the first Nitrox couse in Germany (ANDI Safe Air) back in 1993. Did my first Trimix Dives past 100m in 1994. Became Cave certified in 1998 and finally bought a house in Lake City FL (the cave diving mecca) this year.
Don't let any fool with a medical degree tell you that you can't do something - but plan ahead, measure you blood sigar before every dive and jack it up before getting in the water since it well normally drop around 100mg/dl per hour underwater.
Carry something like a toothpaste tube full of a glucose gel or honey while diving does a lot for your peace of mind and works quickly too.
Michael
Don't let any fool with a medical degree tell you that you can't do something - but plan ahead, measure you blood sigar before every dive and jack it up before getting in the water since it well normally drop around 100mg/dl per hour underwater.
Carry something like a toothpaste tube full of a glucose gel or honey while diving does a lot for your peace of mind and works quickly too.
Michael
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Thank you very much for all the support.
The main issue is that not many people understand what Hypo and Hyperglycemia work, the medication I take will not give me a Hypo as long as I eat normally and it is highly unlikely that I will get Hyperglycemia if I am taking my medication (I take pills, not insulin injections).
When people say “Diabetic Episode” they might picture someone convulsing or having an epilepsy attack, which in all fairness can happen if you have hypoglycemia which can also occur in people without Diabetes.
Throughout my dives I have helped more people during dives, even a panicked diver who showed signs of DS, I don’t consider myself a liability to others, as I have always kept myself within my limits and have aborted dives if I have not feeling my best, like I said I am a Rescue Diver, so I do my level best not to be the Rescued Diver.
What the Doc told me is that the high oxygen gas would lower my blood sugar, so like my endocrinologist said if I have a snack before my dive I should be fine. I won’t pay anyone to sign a waiver, that is the reason why I went to a dive doctor, however since I am allegedly fit for diving, maybe I should get the opinion of an expert in my metabolic disorder.
Michael-fisch, you’re a legend
. Thank you for all the advice, I always carry snacks with me when I go diving.
All the best,
Serge
The main issue is that not many people understand what Hypo and Hyperglycemia work, the medication I take will not give me a Hypo as long as I eat normally and it is highly unlikely that I will get Hyperglycemia if I am taking my medication (I take pills, not insulin injections).
When people say “Diabetic Episode” they might picture someone convulsing or having an epilepsy attack, which in all fairness can happen if you have hypoglycemia which can also occur in people without Diabetes.
Throughout my dives I have helped more people during dives, even a panicked diver who showed signs of DS, I don’t consider myself a liability to others, as I have always kept myself within my limits and have aborted dives if I have not feeling my best, like I said I am a Rescue Diver, so I do my level best not to be the Rescued Diver.
What the Doc told me is that the high oxygen gas would lower my blood sugar, so like my endocrinologist said if I have a snack before my dive I should be fine. I won’t pay anyone to sign a waiver, that is the reason why I went to a dive doctor, however since I am allegedly fit for diving, maybe I should get the opinion of an expert in my metabolic disorder.
Michael-fisch, you’re a legend
. Thank you for all the advice, I always carry snacks with me when I go diving.All the best,
Serge
I'm trying to find a polite way to say that I believe your doctor is full of crap. Definitely find another doctor!
wstorms
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It was mend to be an extreme example of what you could do, but be aware that you (everybody) will have a bias to agree with any favorable outcome. If one doc tells you you absolutely can do something, but the other one states you absolutely can not, who would you most likely like to believe? Get some informed opinions, and make sure to question even those favorable to you.
Part of it also dive medicine complicates things.
Think about just the effects of different games without any medical conditions.
A lot of MD's really don't know much about diving and the effects it has. Dive medicine in general is specialized add in another very complex disease like diabetes and you have a speciality within a speciality.
I hated being insulin dependent. One day my sugar would be X, the next day everything the same my sugar was Y.
Think about just the effects of different games without any medical conditions.
A lot of MD's really don't know much about diving and the effects it has. Dive medicine in general is specialized add in another very complex disease like diabetes and you have a speciality within a speciality.
I hated being insulin dependent. One day my sugar would be X, the next day everything the same my sugar was Y.
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