Halcyon MC (Pioneer) + Novice

[metridium]

The primary difference between a 27# and a 36# is that a gusset has been added to the aft end of the 27# to allow extra lift. Otherwise, the profiles are the same, so you don't have the air-trapping and drag problems you'd find in a 45# vs. the 27#.

There is a difference in price between the 27# and 36#, if I recall correctly, but I don't remember how much it is.

So the question is whether you're likely to need the extra lift of the 36# in the future. If you decide you want to dive dry, and/or with a heavy steel tank, you're better off with the 36#. Otherwise, there's no reason to spend the extra cash.

 

[tombiowami]

The Halcyon rig IMO is much easier to use than a "standard" bc. You may still get some flack from the instructor due to widespread misconceptions. Depending on the shop, they want you to use their gear and some will put other gear/manufacturers down.

I have found the reps at Extreme Exposure very good at answering specific questions about what gear to get for my diving. I imagine the ones at fifth dimension are very good also but no direct experience.

I have the SS BP, 27 wing, and dive a 5mm suit, alum 80, with about 3 lbs. of added weight depending. I have also dove it with a steel tank and no added weight and there is plent of extra bouyancy. The only time it was not enough was when I accidently overweighted myselft with a steel tank and 12 lbs of weight. (don't ask) Even then it would keep me at the surface, just needed a bit of kicking to stay breathing. Overall, this was about 12 lbs too much.

The 45 is way too much wing and goes against the principles of what Halcyon is trying to accomplish.


Feel free to ask more questions




Tommy

 

[noshow]

Great info guys...

"...the Halcyon rep I spoke with was very firm that they wouldn't even be offering it if the Canadian military hadn't insisted. He was emphatic that it's generally not for recreational divers,..."

So despite that I dive in British Columbia waters at 40 degrees F+, wear a dry suit, am 6'4" tall and 235lbs, the 45# wing is NOT for me and I should go for the 36#??? I thought I would need a 45 hands down?

Looking to the experts on this one!

 

[metridium]

Originally posted by noshow
Great info guys...

"...the Halcyon rep I spoke with was very firm that they wouldn't even be offering it if the Canadian military hadn't insisted. He was emphatic that it's generally not for recreational divers,..."

So despite that I dive in British Columbia waters at 40 degrees F+, wear a dry suit, am 6'4" tall and 235lbs, the 45# wing is NOT for me and I should go for the 36#??? I thought I would need a 45 hands down?

Looking to the experts on this one!

I don't qualify as an expert, but all the characteristics you mentioned are similar to mine. If you're diving with heavy equipment and/or a neoprene suit requiring heavy weights, you might need the 45#.

I'd call Halcyon and find out for sure.

 

[noshow]

Thanks I will inquire more. I have purchased (on order) a shell dry suit. How much difference does that make compared to a neoprene dry suit? (lbs dropped)...