Gue Vs Tdi

[cornfed]

they apply to dissolved gasses under pressure. everything about diving revolves around pressure

I could be mistaken, but I was under the impression that the ideal gas laws do not apply to dissolved gases. This article by Eddie Brian talks a little about partial pressures of dissolved gasses.

That's one of the nice things about knowing what I'm talking about, not everyone gets it, that's just the way life is

I told you this before but apparently it didn't take. Comments like this are why people get so agitated with you. Instead of taking a bull**** holier than thou stance, why don't you try explaining your position?

 

[JeffG]

I could be mistake, but I was under the impression that the ideal gas laws do not apply to dissolved gases. This article by Eddie Brian talks a little about partial pressures of dissolved gasses.

Nice Doc...Thanks

I told you this before but apparently it didn't take. Comments like this are why people get so agitated with you. Instead of taking a bull**** holier than thou stance, why don't you try explaining your position?

But then he wouldn't be as fun.

 

[nova]

I could be mistake, but I was under the impression that the ideal gas laws do not apply to dissolved gases. This article by Eddie Brian talks a little about partial pressures of dissolved gasses.

I told you this before but apparently it didn't take. Comments like this are why people get so agitated with you. Instead of taking a bull**** holier than thou stance, why don't you try explaining your position?

sorry to tic you off cornfed, didn't try to. just trying to make a point about the use of higher O2 gasses in respect to off gassing N2.

here's my point, dissolved gas in the body can be delt with in two ways. 1. it can be matabilized (body burns it as energy) or2 it can be expired through the lungs.By changing to a gas that is higher in O2 you are lowering the N2 inspired. This fact allows the N2 that you are expiring to lower the overall partial pressure N2 in the body.

so here's the catch, O2 matabilizes. so to much oxygen (high partial pressure) will cause mechanical interferance with the nervous system.and N2 doesn't matabilize at all (inert gas) so this must be expired through the lungs. The best way to expire excess N2 is at depth while the N2 is still small and can pass through the avioli (sp) in the lungs

P.s cornfed I just looked at that doc that you posted and I was suprised that I could sum the whole thing up into two paragraghs

 

[cornfed]

P.s cornfed I just looked at that doc that you posted and I was suprised that I could sum the whole thing up into two paragraghs

No, I think you made a general statement about how not to get bent.

 

[nova]

No, I think you made a general statement about how not to get bent.

is there any wonder why I just want to slam my keyboard through the damn monitor. if I didn't need this computer to trade stocks I'd beat this thing with a bat.

 

[cornfed]

is there any wonder why I just want to slam my keyboard through the damn monitor. if I didn't need this computer to trade stocks I'd beat this thing with a bat.

You started us on this tangent by suggesting the oxygen window theary[sic] which didn't jive with physics. When people said you may have missed the relevant physics you started asserting that you know what you're talking about and that's all that matters. When presented with an article discussing the oxygen window you made a general statement about decompression and tried to pass it off as a summary of that same article. Trust me, I feel the frustration you do...

 

[nova]

You started us on this tangent by suggesting the oxygen window theary[sic] which didn't jive with physics. When people said you may have missed the relevant physics you started asserting that you know what you're talking about and that's all that matters. When presented with an article discussing the oxygen window you made a general statement about decompression and tried to pass it off as a summary of that same article. Trust me, I feel the frustration you do...

just because 6-2=4 and 2+2=4 doesn't make them the same , I'd have better luck teaching farm animals decompresion diving than agrueing theories here.


just so everyone can be frustrated, do you have a percentage of oxygen in your body or do you have a pressure of oxygen ? think carefully about it.

 

[pants!]

just so everyone can be frustrated, do you have a percentage of oxygen in your body or do you have a pressure of oxygen ? think carefully about it.

You don't have either. You have a mass of oxygen dissolved in your tissues.

The mass of nitrogen that can be dissolved in your tissues is a function of pressure. The process of nitrogen becoming gaseous - that is, coming out of solution - depends on pressure. The diffusion of nitrogen throughout the tissues, into the bloodstream, and into the lungs, is a function of concentration of nitrogen in solution. Partial pressures make no difference in the mass of a gas that can be dissolved, but they do make a difference in diffusion rates.\

 

[nova]

You don't have either. You have a mass of oxygen dissolved in your tissues.

The mass of nitrogen that can be dissolved in your tissues is a function of pressure. The process of nitrogen becoming gaseous - that is, coming out of solution - depends on pressure. The diffusion of nitrogen throughout the tissues, into the bloodstream, and into the lungs, is a function of concentration of nitrogen in solution. Partial pressures make no difference in the mass of a gas that can be dissolved, but they do make a difference in diffusion rates.\

did you just make that up ? because you just put 200 years of science in the toilet.

if you beleive this theory explain ppn2. ppo2 pph2 where co2 comes from?and if you beleive for one second that Graham's laws on gas effussion are corect then explain why Graham beleive all gas molcules are the same size when it's been proven that argon and helium are different

 

[cornfed]

just so everyone can be frustrated, do you have a percentage of oxygen in your body or do you have a pressure of oxygen ? think carefully about it.

If you're going to split hairs... neither.

Wow, it is fun to play stupid games like this.