Good news re BP/W choice

[divad]

This thread was never about DiveRite. I like DiveRite. Here's the IST/ Dolphintec (I like them too)version sold by
DirDirect [sic]:






IST Deluxe Harness

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The deluxe harness gives the diver a more comfortable set up than the basic harness. It comes with anatomically shaped shoulder padding and waist cushions to soften the burden brought on by the heavy cylinder(s).

 

[m0xty]

Still love single harness...you can add padding too, your choice...


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[Ouvea]

To you and the others who want to critisize people for not using the gear you personally like, I bet your car has airconditioning, power windows, power seats, external rear view mirrors, a radio and cd player and etc. you know, all that unnecessary fluff.

For Petes sake, get a life.

Djanni:

I think you mis-understand Eric's post. He hasn't criticized anyone. He has criticized the effectiveness of a piece of equipment, as compared to another piece of equipment. Whether you agree with his analysis, depends on your familiarity with that equipment. Personally, I speak from first-hand experience with the Dive Rite Trans-Plate harness and with the Continuous One Piece Harness, which I now use. The COPH is more streamlined, less cumbersome and easier to properly setup, than the Dive Rite Trans Plate.

Dive Rite positions the Trans Plate as an introductory item for those that want to use a BP/W but do not have any experience with setting up the COPH or just are afraid of the COPH. It's difficult to comprehend why/how the COPH performs so well, without the needing of tightening down shoulder straps. The crotch strap makes this possible. However, the harness and crotch strap needs to be properly adjusted/sized and the D-Rings have to be correctly placed. When you have that, the darn thing is a work of art.

Even if you still wanted an adjustable harness, there are more elegant and functional solutions. The Agir Brokk Harpa Loops, the Halcyon Cinch or the Deap Sea Supply Glide Adaptor will give you the adjustability without the need for superfluous buckles and floating straps.

If you read some of the post about the CPOH, you will a plethora of cases, just like mine, where we all migrated to the COPH.

O.

 

[djtimmy77]

I too like dive rite and have plenty of products from them. I was just relating my real world experience of salvagIng hardware from a harness I wasnt going to use, and with the way it is constructed, the easiest way to do it is to cut it apart.

 

[doctormike]

To you and the others who want to critisize people for not using the gear you personally like, I bet your car has airconditioning, power windows, power seats, external rear view mirrors, a radio and cd player and etc. you know, all that unnecessary fluff.

For Petes sake, get a life.

Sorry, what do you think the point of an online scuba forum is, anyway? Do you object to people reading posts and writing responses? Should every post be "OK, whatever works for you"...?

People post their opinions here. If they like a piece of gear, or don't like a piece of gear, they are going to say it. It doesn't mean that they "don't have a life". Sometimes, reading criticism can actually cause someone to change their mind about something.

And, FWIW, needed or not, those car accessories don't make it harder to drive the car. But some of these BC features actually do have downsides...

 

[halocline]

To you and the others who want to critisize people for not using the gear you personally like, I bet your car has airconditioning, power windows, power seats, external rear view mirrors, a radio and cd player and etc. you know, all that unnecessary fluff.

It's a terrible analogy, at least most of it. Air conditioning makes a huge difference in comfort, especially down here in TX, mirrors are a standard safety feature on all cars, and a radio/cd player (now mostly media players) also significantly contributes to the enjoyment in use. Whereas the stuff that's on most jacket BCs does nothing to improve the dive experience, and for most SB posters that actually have experience with both feature-laden jackets BCs and minimalist BP/W set ups, the lack of these 'features' is exactly what makes them perform better in the water.

You seem to be taking this stuff personally, I'm not sure why, although I do have a vague memory of you having some sort of dispute with Tobin a few years back. But for myself and many others, it's not any sort of personal issue, we're just trying to be helpful to less experienced divers who have asked for advice on a public forum.

 

[cool_hardware52]

It's a terrible analogy, at least most of it. Air conditioning makes a huge difference in comfort, especially down here in TX, mirrors are a standard safety feature on all cars, and a radio/cd player (now mostly media players) also significantly contributes to the enjoyment in use. Whereas the stuff that's on most jacket BCs does nothing to improve the dive experience, and for most SB posters that actually have experience with both feature-laden jackets BCs and minimalist BP/W set ups, the lack of these 'features' is exactly what makes them perform better in the water.

Exactly. Who do you know that had the AC, radio and Mirrors removed from their car? I don't know anyone. I can point to many divers who start with a "fluffy" BP&W and remove the fluff piece by piece.

Tobin

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

Exactly. Who do you know that had the AC, radio and Mirrors removed from their car? I don't know anyone. I can point to many divers who start with a "fluffy" BP&W and remove the fluff piece by piece.

Tobin

The problem with "fluffy" BC's is that the way many are made there is no way to remove things to make them less fluffy without destroying the whole unit. The fluff IS the unit.
So that's why we try and tell people that if they eventually want a unit with less fluff then just buy the one (the system/concept) with no fluff to start with and they will have bought their second unit first.
The thing is, many people who are new don't know about units with less fluff because the place they went to get certified will only expose them to fluff (most dive shops). So then they may hear rumors about different gear which sends them on an internet search and they eventually find us.
But true to SB form there will always be someone defending fluff, which is fine, but I ask them to consider WHY the OP's in these cases came here and asked the questions in the first place? If they were completely satisfied with their fluff then they never would have come here.

 

[divad]

My new bottom timer:

What do you think?

 

[Eric Sedletzky]

My new bottom timer:

What do you think?

Beautiful, very nice.
I would put a little bungee or something on that wind up key so you don't lose it.